a 351w and a c6 for the wagon!!! is this a good start for the track or not. just looking for something for me and the son to play around with on the weekends and i can get it real cheap!!! so lets hear what you think!!!!!!!!!!
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'88' MGM wagon (mine and my sons toy)
"60" chrysler New Yorker (my project)
"78" Chevy 1 Ton P/U (yard horse)
"01" Ford Explorer (wifes DD)
"93" Chevy Suburban (my DD) -
Stock 351 or mildly upgraded?
Imaging you'd get it out of a truck, it'd be kinda slow.. But with a cam and heads you'd have a little more puff. Wagons with the towing package should've had 351s!__________________________________________________
1985.03 Crown Vic. Coupe "CVGT" Build thread - china whirlybird, burnout machine.
The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.
Originally posted by SVT98t -
The C6 is a big heavy fucker. It also eats a lot of power. Honestly, the AOD makes more sense if its not dead, though a shaky one may die with more power. It will also bolt straight up to a 351w or 351c. A C4 even is a better choice than a C6, though I really don't much care for those things.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it worksComment
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C6 is pretty pointless, really. At this point a decently built AOD will last as well as a C6, and weight less, and give you overdrive. As Thain said, a C4 is a bit better but you're still losing OD.
Overall, I'd just put some serious gears behind the AOD and run it till it blew, which will probably take a while unless you're making serious power.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)Comment
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C4 is the same overall length as an AOD, so it will be a more painless swap than a c6.
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ok so nexs the c6 and use the aod got it but is the aod all mechanical ? i am trying to do away with the computer all together !!'88' MGM wagon (mine and my sons toy)
"60" chrysler New Yorker (my project)
"78" Chevy 1 Ton P/U (yard horse)
"01" Ford Explorer (wifes DD)
"93" Chevy Suburban (my DD)Comment
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yes, the AOD is all mechanical. The electrical connections are only for the neutral safety switch to keep the starter for engaging when in gear.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.Comment
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And the reverse lights.
It needs the throttle valve cable, and that must have the correct geometry. No computer control though.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it worksComment
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I used a 351w with a c6 in a 82 markVI. Had to get the drive shaft shortened tho.Comment
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ok so i will have to figure out the TV cable and what about the motor mounts,will the 302 mounts work???'88' MGM wagon (mine and my sons toy)
"60" chrysler New Yorker (my project)
"78" Chevy 1 Ton P/U (yard horse)
"01" Ford Explorer (wifes DD)
"93" Chevy Suburban (my DD)Comment
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Yes. Part number is the same 351W vs. 302.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)Comment
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ok cool thanks for the imfo'88' MGM wagon (mine and my sons toy)
"60" chrysler New Yorker (my project)
"78" Chevy 1 Ton P/U (yard horse)
"01" Ford Explorer (wifes DD)
"93" Chevy Suburban (my DD)Comment
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I often have two windows/tabs up, both of Rockauto's catalog when it comes to this stuff. Allows you to cross-reference really quickly. What's the same on 351 vs. 302, mustang vs. panthers, etc. You can also click on the actual part number in their catalog and it brings up a (sometimes vague) list of all cars that part is listed as fitting.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)Comment
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Oddly enough, there is a 351/c4 sitting on the floor in front of the blue wagon....
87 Ford LTD Crown Victoria Country Squire Station Wagon. 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, Boxed LCA's, Explorer Intake, 65mm T-body, 'Stang Cam, 'Stang Air tube, K&N, GT-40X Heads, 1" Spacer, 1 5/8 BBK's, 2.5" Pypes X-pipe w/high flow cats, Single Chamber Thunderbolts, B&M 'vertor, Po-lice Swaybars.
91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.
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And what is your address there mitymerc????? LOL'88' MGM wagon (mine and my sons toy)
"60" chrysler New Yorker (my project)
"78" Chevy 1 Ton P/U (yard horse)
"01" Ford Explorer (wifes DD)
"93" Chevy Suburban (my DD)Comment
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