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    #31
    yeah... no spark signal from the TFI... looks like the computer may have taken out the TFI. the computer in there now is still holding to life so whatever damage was done was a one shot it looks like.

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    Originally posted by gadget73
    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

    Originally posted by dmccaig
    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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      #32
      Originally posted by 85crownHPP View Post
      sucks!!!!!!!! I wonder if the ECM blowing did other damage... I hope its not the other way around
      I would say just the opposite, sounds to me like there is an electrical gremlin thats causing damage to various modules. check and re-check all your grounds.
      also check the important wires for shorts to power/voltage.
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        #33
        all the wires are good... grounds are secure... etc etc... bah.

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        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #34
          replaced the TFI module. all better now. Hopefully it'll stay that way for the foreseeable future.

          gonna take it for a drive after I scarf some lunch and see how it behaves.

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          Originally posted by gadget73
          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

          Originally posted by dmccaig
          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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            #35
            drives right nice again. so engine computer and ignition module and it's all better.

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            Originally posted by gadget73
            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

            Originally posted by dmccaig
            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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              #36
              A word to the wise: new TFI modules usually come with dielectric grease, but this is not what you want to use between the module and the distributor, since it doesn't conduct heat worth a shit. Use CPU thermal paste like you would between a CPU and a heatsink in your computer, and the TFI module will last much longer.
              Originally posted by gadget73
              There is nothing more permanent than a temporary fix.
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                #37
                Originally posted by 88grandmarq View Post
                I would say just the opposite, sounds to me like there is an electrical gremlin thats causing damage to various modules. check and re-check all your grounds.
                also check the important wires for shorts to power/voltage.
                amen. A catastrophic meltdown of that ECM had to have been caused by something.

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                  #38
                  I'd hardy call it a catastrophic meltdown. 20+ year old capacitors can fail at any time, and blow out the way this one did, without some outside source to cause the failure. Hell, brand new capacitors can do this if they are a shitty cheap brand. Old capacitors in general are a ticking time bomb.
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                    #39
                    amazingly enough, the module I got came with thermal silicon grease (the white crap) instead of dielectric grease (the semi-clear goop). car runs fine now.

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                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                    Originally posted by dmccaig
                    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                      #40
                      Hi Slymer

                      Two electronic components dying in quick succession; it might be worth checking your alternator isn't over charging.

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                        #41
                        it's definitely NOT overcharging... undercharging it does do. I get MAX about 14 volts. I'm planning on a 3g conversion by thanksgiving.

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                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                        Originally posted by dmccaig
                        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                          #42
                          the rectifiers in it aren't shot are they? I've seen alternators fail in a way that puts AC in the system. Stuff doesn't like that much.
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                            #43
                            just a 0.1V ripple. That should be fine.

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                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                            Originally posted by dmccaig
                            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                              #44
                              how do you test for this???
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                                #45
                                oscilloscope set on AC with 0.1v/div vertical and 0.1sec/div horizontal with a DMM set on AC in parallel to confirm, with the leads across the battery (output from alt to ground).

                                The oscilloscope is there to watch for spikes. Didn't have any after I got the leads connected good.

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                                Originally posted by gadget73
                                ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                                Originally posted by dmccaig
                                Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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