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    No Spark

    1989 Grand Marquis
    Since yesterday i have not been able to start my Marquis after installing my radio , it just cranks and cranks but nothing...
    So this morning i pulled a few spark plug wires from the spark plugs and hooked it up to a different good spare spark plug i had laying around, hooked up the negative jumper cable to it and then plugged the other end on the negative side battery and have no spark at all while cranking the engine.. I'm thinking the gas is fine because you can smell it while it's cranking.. just no spark.. now where do i begin to find the problem on this car?
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    #2
    ignition module is the usual issue. check inside the distributor and make sure the position sensor is still in one piece. check the cap and rotor as well while you're in there. If you have a multimeter, check that there's 12V at the coil when the key is on (red wire - might have a stripe). Make sure the ignition module has good contact (had mine back off the module once and it wouldn't run... but it didn't fall off). Autozone can test the ignition module if you take it to them. Would need an oscilloscope to test the pickup sensor.

    If you don't have 12V at the coil when the key is on, then you have a fuse link or ECM problem (can't remember off the top of my head what actually feeds that line). You may also need a new ignition switch in the steering column.

    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

    Originally posted by gadget73
    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

    Originally posted by dmccaig
    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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      #3
      Just curious, when you say installed my new radio, what do you mean specifically? Straight replacement or did you do any wiring? Just the one trim panel removed?
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        #4
        do i need to do anything special to get the module off the distributor?
        edit: actually after inspecting it theres a crack where it says motorcraft
        Last edited by extortion00; 08-07-2013, 03:46 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by jaywish View Post
          Just curious, when you say installed my new radio, what do you mean specifically? Straight replacement or did you do any wiring? Just the one trim panel removed?
          I didn't cut any wires.. just removed the stock stereo and hooked it up to a aftermarket harness.. it ran fine when i plugged it in, but when i got it installed the car wouldn't start just keeps cranking.. so i guess coincidence

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            #6
            You can use something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lisle-Tools-...61faca&vxp=mtr

            or grind a 7/32 socket thin enough to fit in the recess of the module. You need to clean the surface and recoat with thermal compound. Did you check for voltage at the coil like sly said?
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            02 SL500 Silver Arrow
            08 TC Signature Limited, HID's Mods>06 Mustang Bullet Rims 235/55-17 Z rated BFG G-Force Comp-2 A/S Plus, Addco 1" rear Sway, Posi Carrier, Compustar Remote Start, floor liners, trunk organizer, Two part Sun Visors, B&M Trans drain Plug, Winter=05 Mustang GT rims, Nokian Hakkapeliitta R-2 235/55-17
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              #7
              no i didn't yet..i dont have a volt meter i was just gonnna take it off and take it up the street and see if it was faulty

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                #8
                That works. Still need to clean and re-compound.

                Do you have a test light? If not a working bulb (12volt) in a socket with pigtails will work just fine to test for voltage. Still should pick up a meter so you can check for ground and or continuity when necessary.
                Last edited by jaywish; 08-07-2013, 04:57 PM.
                03 Marauder DPB, HS, 6disk, Organizer Mods> LED's in & Out, M&Z rear control arms, Oil deflector, U-Haul Trans Pan, Blue Fuzzy Dice
                02 SL500 Silver Arrow
                08 TC Signature Limited, HID's Mods>06 Mustang Bullet Rims 235/55-17 Z rated BFG G-Force Comp-2 A/S Plus, Addco 1" rear Sway, Posi Carrier, Compustar Remote Start, floor liners, trunk organizer, Two part Sun Visors, B&M Trans drain Plug, Winter=05 Mustang GT rims, Nokian Hakkapeliitta R-2 235/55-17
                12 Escape Limited V6 AWD, 225/65R17 Vredestein Quatrac Pro, Winter 235/70-16 Conti Viking Contact7 Mods>Beamtech LED headlight bulbs, Husky floor liners

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                  #9
                  guess i'm going to have to replace the whole distributor now.. taking off the module i seemed to have broke a nice piece of plastic on the distributor where the clip holds the cap.. i was being easy too!! can never win!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by extortion00 View Post
                    guess i'm going to have to replace the whole distributor now.. taking off the module i seemed to have broke a nice piece of plastic on the distributor where the clip holds the cap.. i was being easy too!! can never win!!
                    Should be able to just buy a cap adaptor for that, the distributor is all metal and usually doesn't come with the cap or cap adaptor anyway. Plus they're like $70 when an adaptor is like $5 at a junkyard. No need to waste money on distributor over broken adaptor.

                    If you look at top you see 2 screws to remove the adaptor.
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                      #11
                      excuse my ignorance lol i'm still learning here..

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                        #12
                        replaced the module and adapter and it fires right up!! thank you guys for the help.. best forum now i just need to get the timing correct

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                          #13

                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                          Originally posted by dmccaig
                          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jaywish View Post
                            You can use something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lisle-Tools-...61faca&vxp=mtr
                            These are usually available at AutoZone in the tool section FYI
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr.Blue View Post
                              These are usually available at AutoZone in the tool section FYI
                              that's where i picked mine up at!

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