Anabelle's trans lost OD on the highway the other day, wouldn't stay in gear with any power applied. So I pulled over and found smoke coming out from under the hood and noticed dripping fluid inbetween the torque converter and the bellhousing..... the trans-fluid is dark and burnt. It was just flushed 3000 miles ago. SO, can I drive with 1,2, and 3 for a while if I flush the burnt fluid out?
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1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph. -
sounds like the front pump seal is shot, i wouldnt drive it anywhere like that. unfortunately it sounds like the damage has been done. i dont think a trnas flush is going to help you at all.1996 Mercury Grand Marquis - duals, PI cams, PI intake, J-Mod, MZT, BOC tune, 3.55s, 18in wheels
1965 Ford Falcon Ranchero - 5.0 HO T5 Fun Cruiser
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You mean that little orange o-ring seal around the input shaft?1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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if you can see it from under the car, no. it is something you have to remove the trans to service. and if you are going to that trouble,considering the condition of your trans, you might as well put a new one in.1996 Mercury Grand Marquis - duals, PI cams, PI intake, J-Mod, MZT, BOC tune, 3.55s, 18in wheels
1965 Ford Falcon Ranchero - 5.0 HO T5 Fun Cruiser
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you can thank the transmission flush for that..
if it aint broke don't fix it.. this is especially true with the aod trans, i myself would never consider flushing any transmission.Give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will promptly forget that he once did not know, and proceed to call anyone who asks, a n00b and flame them on the boards for being stupid.Comment
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the problem with changing or flushing old fluid out is. for one thing the old fluid has the clutch material in it so when you put new fluid in a old trans you drain the clutch material out as well. it's a quick death to a old trans. petes original trans in the 91 died 300 miles after he flushed it.
1989 mercury grand marquis gs / 2014 ford focus s daily driver
302 lopo with ho upper/ aod with trans go shift kit
k code 3:55 posi rear/big brake swap tow package car
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it got hot and cooked. No mystery there, but its shot now. You can probably run it as a 3 speed for a while if you change the fluid. I would check the TV bushing though, usually thats the root cause of a sudden OD failure along with the massive heat buildup.
Also, there is a difference between a flush and a service. Service involves dropping the pan, changing the filter, draining the converter, and refilling with fresh fluid. The flush just sucks old fluid out and puts new in through the cooler lines. It doesn't change the filter, or give you any indication of what may be in the pan. If the trans is really high mileage and not maintained (I don't think yours is, if I remember thats a low mileage car), it can kill it to change the fluid. If thats not the case, well sometimes things just go bad.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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TV bushing is fine, that's the first thing I replaced. It's got 99,XXX miles on it. I think what happened was the fluid leaked out somehow and she overheated. My trans filter was changed, the pan was dropped, and everything was cleaned out and it ran just fine for 3000 miles. I even have a trans-cooler installed. But in traffic I noticed the temp gauge at 200 degrees in 90* weather even with my electric fan and 160* thermostat.1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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200 isn't overheating, just a bit warm. a 160 tstat is kind of cold though. Believe it or not, colder thermostats won't neccesarily keep the engine cooler if it tends to run hot. The thermostat simply sets a minimum temperature, which really ought to be 180-190 for optimal performance and minimal engine wear. If you're having issues with the temp hitting 200 or more with an electric fan, I'm thinking you don't have enough radiator capacity, or the radiator is partially clogged.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it worksComment
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yeah... you cooked the OD band.
the extra heat and pressure from the OD band slipping is pushing the fluid out the front pump seal.
my 89 CV LX did the exact same thing about a month after I got it.2003 Town Car Signature - 3.27 RAR, Dual exhaust and J-mod - SOLD 9/2011
89 Crown Victoria LX HPP -- SOLD 9/2010
88 Grand Marquis LS - The Original -- Totaled 5/2006
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yeah, I have a crappy proform fan made for stock mustang 5.0's and a stock 3 year old single row radiator. Probably could use that mark VIII fan.1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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i tried that proform fan on a panther.....it is not enough fan
1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)
please be patient, rebuilding an empire!
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Maybe I can somehow sell my 91 dodge, get the cash, and limp it up there in time for scottfest and go see Brian about a racing wide band AOD1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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Since I had nothing else to do, I offered to drive to Brians house and fix his transmission.
Yesterday I made it Raleigh.. We got the transmission out and apart, confirmed the OD is COOKED.
everything else looks good. I got a new O/D band installed.
This morning we are off to get a shift kit and some other Misc. parts to put it back together.
Hopefully things will go smoothly and it will back together and installed back in the car by this evening.2003 Town Car Signature - 3.27 RAR, Dual exhaust and J-mod - SOLD 9/2011
89 Crown Victoria LX HPP -- SOLD 9/2010
88 Grand Marquis LS - The Original -- Totaled 5/2006
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