i am looking at buying a 390 out of a 79 ford pickup and was wondering how big of a job it would be to put it in my 84 cv? what would i need to do the swap i have the knowladge to do it i have before but what would it take other than that?
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You need a FE pattern C6 and a neutral balance flexplate. You will need a custom length driveshaft. There may be a truck oil pan which will work for you or you need an aftermarket oil pan. There should be a shorty header which you can use or a set of Mustang 428CJ factory manifolds should work. -
there was a 390 in 79?
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Not a small project at all. 79 should be a 400 or a 351m if it wasnt a 351w. 390 ended production in 74 or 75 I believe. Possible someone stabbed one in there though, old trucks often have all sorts of weird non-original BS86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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a 390 would be pretty cool if you could get it to to fit and work!!
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427 cammer would be the coolest...'88 Colony Park, white with wood grain contact paper, K code axle, hose pliers on heater hoses, factory duals, big plans in the future...
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390 and 360 were axed in trucks in 75, 351m 400 were then installed for 76.
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Could be a 460 as well. Several people have swapped 385-Series Big blocks, I don't think I've heard of any of them being too great on the street, though.
Whatever motor is in that truck probably needs freshened up anyway. Why not drop in an Exploder 5.0? It's a much more friendly swap and you'll have more horsepower, stock for stock.1990 Country Squire - under restoration
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Exploder 302 is useless in comparison to a 351M or larger engine in a truck.. FE and Cleveland (335 series) motors eat GT40 motors for breakfast and have room for a SB Chevy in their tummies...... GT40 motors weep at just the sight of a 429 or 460.....
1979 was nearly 30 years ago. FE motors were VERY popular swaps over those years.. A 390 4V engine makes 427 ft lbs of torque stock... Try that with a 302 once.....
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I know you know that's gross and on early passenger car 390. Convert it to net and run it through an automatic and you're left with about 275 ft lbs if you're lucky. A stock 5.0 HO can come pretty close to that.Originally posted by Mercracer View Post1990 Country Squire - under restoration
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No it can't come even close. A stock 5.0 is rated net at the flywheel, not through a transmission at the rear wheels. You are confusing the two. Convert a HO 302 to gross at the flywheel and see what you have. 300 net does not equal 400+ gross.... A 1968 302 4V only made 310 gross ft lbs.. Even if you are claiming that accessories are robbing 30HP from the HOs rating, you are still 100 ft lbs short of a good 390.Originally posted by Tiggie View PostComment
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There is no way our 400 can compare to a explorer motor. I blew a 9" nodular into a bunch of little pieces...A 302 aint gonna do that.Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
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Define 9" Nodular.... I have found that many people do not know what a Nodular carrier actually is..... If it doesn't have the extra rib AND the large N cast in, it isn't a nodular...Originally posted by mrltd View Post
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If it looks like this, it is NOT a nodular...
What exactly did you "blow to pieces" ? Bearing failure or trac lok spider failure does not equate to blowing a diff to pieces due to too much torque... The weak point in a truck 9" carrier is the inner pinion bearing support. Guys mess their gears up or let a pinion bearing wear out and it takes out the pinion support.Last edited by Mercracer; 04-24-2008, 04:45 PM.Comment
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Ok, not a nodular.. Thought that was the term for the center section. I blew the pinion out the side of the carrier.....More than just the pinion support. Axle wasn't that old.
But I did it in 4wd low, without the front hubs locked, and doing a brakestand... LOLBuilder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
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The inner/rear pinion support is notoriously weak on truck housings. Most likely if the pinion exited the side of the carrier, the pinion bearings failed in front which allowed play to take out the rear pinion support and then crack the carrier housing...Comment
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