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    Going to be doing this on the Lincoln soon. Any tips? Tricks? I know peoples opinions vary on how to seal up the ends of the intake, whether to use the rubber/cork seals or just a monster bead of ATV. I have the fel-pro gasket kit with the high quality blue rubber pieces. Should I use them? Throw them out and substitute ATV? I've only ever taken a manifold off that didnt have to go back son, so i figured I'd ask first. thanks guys. Any tips on replacing the timing cover gasket would also be helpful, I'm also using a felpro gasket kit for that along with a Felpro perma-seal oil pan gasket.
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    I used a big bead of orange RTV instead of the Felpro complete gasket kit's cork ends. I waited until the RTV was a little tacky, and then the intake was installed and torqued down per spec. 200k later and no problems whatsoever. What do these new blue rubber pieces look like? Do they have any ribs molded in for positive retention to prevent blow-out? I take it you're not pulling the oil pan? If so, when I changed my cam out, I just used a razor blade to cut the oil pan gasket off at the front, and cut a new piece to sub in. I remember seeing a rubber gasket with metal sleeves just for this purpose when I went to pick up my one-piece rubber oil pan gasket with metal sleeves. This seems like a good idea worth looking for.

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      #3
      use a big bead of RTV, let set for one hour, then install intake. This is actually the method recommended by Edelbrock
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        #4
        Heres the end pieces the Fel Pro kit includes






        I have a 1 piece oil pan gasket with the metal sleeves in it. The timing kit comes with some piece for the oil pan, but figure I might as well change the gasket that has 200,000km on it.
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          #5
          with the one piece pan gasket you want to use dabs of RTV in the corners to prevent leaks.
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            #6
            Where did you get those end pieces? I bought 4 Felpro gasket sets and couldn't get any with the neoprene end seals. I think those should be fine.

            I used the cork ones, and applied the RTV liberally.

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              #7
              use those pieces......use ultra black on the corners and around the water jackets on the intake gaskets......its the cork ones that i toss out and use the bead of ultra black

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                #8
                What was the way to do it when you have a one-piece oil pan gasket? Re-use the original or cut it out and put that Fel-pro piece in with the two cork pieces? I can't remember how Scott did it during the HO conversion on S.U.

                Also, which set is better to get ...
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                  #9
                  Blue rubber fel-pro's work great. No leaks so far on my wagon after 4K miles. I used a little RTV on the corners and put a thin coat of RTV around the water jackets on both the head and the intake.

                  Make sure the mating surfaces are completely clean!
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                    #10
                    the corners are biggest problem areas for leaks. i remember watching Scott and paying attention how he put the Permatex Ultra Black in the corners and how he put some on the other stuff and smeared with his fingers to make a light coat with it.
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                      #11
                      Thats the FelPro Permadry gasket set. Those end pieces work well, as Scott said, a dab of RTV in the corners and it should do fine. I've used them multiple times without leaks on my own car, a total of 5 different sets.

                      I had to cut the piece out of the one-piece pan gasket on mine when I did the timing cover gasket. It wouldn't sit in the timing cover while I was trying to install the thing. Snipped it right at the edge of the flat part of the pan, put the new rubber piece in with a blob of RTV at each corner and it went together with no leaks.
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                        #12
                        I picked up a new felpro kit a few months ago with the rubber ends and they look pretty good so i plan on using them soon..

                        the kit is MS93334
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by DuceAnAHalf View Post
                          with the one piece pan gasket you want to use dabs of RTV in the corners to prevent leaks.
                          x1 just make sure you wait for the rtv the cure for a little bit. One tip for when you do the timing chain cover gasket when you put the water pump back on. take the back plate off the pump put ultra black on both sides of the 2 gaskets will save you some trouble down the road and won't be likely to leak

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bpeterson
                            Hi I am just new here in this forum and I really learned a lot from you guys specially when it comes to car parts like timing cover repair sleeve.. Thank you so much!
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                              #15
                              damn spam...they are like roaches!

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