Kill switch/Master switch?

[P72Ford]

massive steel eye bolt anchored into the concrete with a heavy steel chain wrapped around the engine cradle with steel pipe surrounding the chain, secured with a container lock.

a container lock is one of these. nearly 3 inches across and about 1 3/4" thick of hardened steel




if you used a wheel lift against something like this as soon as you pulled away the car would roll back off.




I was gonna do something similar for my atv. but instead of a concrete anchor have the hook welded to a 4"x8" 1/2" steel plate so it could not be rolled requiring the 300+# quad and the 400#+ steel plate to be lifted together

Its a plan. But you better have that eye bolt in the ground any place that you park.

[1987cp]

With a carb and aftermarket ignition, hotwiring is easy...No matter what kind of kill switch you have.

Well, a really serious thief is going to get the car no matter what, even if they have to bring in a crane and a jackhammer.

[mrltd]

running one wire to hotwire makes it really damn easy to steal.

1. bash window
2. pop hood
3. put 12v onto MSD box/coil, screwdriver across starter solenoid
4. yank steering wheel really hard to break lock
5. Enjoy your new car!


Older cars with the ignition post on the starter solenoid made it way to easy. However I could hotwire an old ford in a matter of seconds from the ignition switch

[DuceAnAHalf]

running one wire to hotwire makes it really damn easy to steal.

1. bash window
2. pop hood
3. put 12v onto MSD box/coil, screwdriver across starter solenoid
4. yank steering wheel really hard to break lock
5. Enjoy your new car!


Older cars with the ignition post on the starter solenoid made it way to easy. However I could hotwire an old ford in a matter of seconds from the ignition switch

would be pretty hard to break my lock since you only have an 1 3/4" piece there to turn. that and the fact that the car never has an energized electrical system unless i turn it on.


speaking of, i want to find a way to not let the car start unless the switches are flipped in a certain pattern

[1987cp]

speaking of, i want to find a way to not let the car start unless the switches are flipped in a certain pattern

Shouldn't that be pretty easy to do? Install a bunch of on/off/on switches in a sealed box with one or two grounding out the circuit unless they're in the "off" position?

Then there's the question, what circuitry would such a box be used to energize ....... you got me there.

[86GmLsCoupe]

My car has a new Viper alarm, mainly for convenience but it has the starter kill and 2-way page so I'll know if something is going on up to 1 mile away. I still have to setup the valet, I think they are all defaulted to 1 press but mine is hidden anyhow. NJ has some areas where car theft is likely (Elizabeth, Newark, & Camden) but most people are not interested in our cars which is perfectly fine by me. I could always just add a GPS tracker inside one of the frame rails and hunt the person down. The skinny door frame around the window is VERY easily wedged open and once you pull the handle (locked or not) it opens. Also remember to click those vents closed.

[Dave84]

those removable steering wheels will usually screw someone's gig up pretty well. Not many people are gonna take a car they can't steer.

I have heard of people just putting a couple pairs of vise grips on the steering shaft to steer the car.

[P72Ford]

4. yank steering wheel really hard to break lock

Ever done this? It took three people to break the lock on an old cop car my dad's friend had.

[gadget73]

yeah, you could sure. the removable wheel is mostly to deter the casual theif. A pro could still get the car easy enough. The biggest anti-theft factor we all have going is the fact that our cars are not desirable theft targets. They're worth more in scrap metal than they can yield in easy parts flip money.

[gadget73]

Ever done this? It took three people to break the lock on an old cop car my dad's friend had.

did it myself 2 weeks ago in the junkyard. 98 crown vic, I had it broken in maybe a minute or two.

[P72Ford]

I've never tried it on a newer car. The one we did it on was a box. Either there was a problem with the one we did, or you're really strong... or we were really weak...

[86VickyLX]

If I recall, there were things on empty switch holes in the cluster on the door. You could run a switch there, and make it look stock. Who would ever think to flip a switch on the door?

[gadget73]

entirely possible the one in the yard was worn out. the wheels were also off the ground, so there was no drag from them to fight.

[Wolfeyes88]

A friend of mine has, in addition to a normal alarm, a couple of home made anti-thefts in her STi. Three switches in the fuel pump circut. A toggle switch, a rotary switch, and a push-pull switch. There's also a fourth switch that activates a second alarm, that stays on even if the switch is flipped back.

The rotary switch in the fuel pump circut might be an interesting idea. Set it up so that it only allows the fuel pump to run if it's on a certain setting. Hell if your good at electronics you could set it up so that if the switch is in any position other than on or off, and the car is running, the horn is on.

[1987cp]

If I recall, there were things on empty switch holes in the cluster on the door. You could run a switch there, and make it look stock. Who would ever think to flip a switch on the door?

Like the switch that's intended to disable the passenger window controls? That could be kind of clever .... hide it in plain sight. :p