After careful consideration... I've decided..

[Jon]

Look at your registration paper you carry with you in your wallet or look at the title. Here in New York at least the weight of the vehicle is printed on it. I just found out that my Crown Victoria originally was 3,658 while my Escort is 2,411.

not here in north carolina. Make, model, type, color, vin, title number. Name and address. There is a spot for weight, but none of my titles or registrations have them filled in.

I can take pics if yall want.

Hell, inspections in person county are a joke as well. High beams, low beams, turn signals, horn, wipers, brake lights. yeah thats it. I love it. Feel like riding around without doors? go for it. wanna cut to top off? go for it. All kinds of crazy shit goes on here. Mufflers? cut em off and let the bitch roar.

Prime example, My mazda that i gave to my aunt. The drivers automatic seat belt is broke so you can only use the lap belt. Cop pulled me over for a busted headlight and didnt care about the seatbelt. lol.

[87gtVIC]

The car should have came with a crank to crank the seatbelt back into the upright position. Then just unplug the belt and replug while driving. I am pretty sure Mazdas and Escorts of that vintage or pretty similar inside and out. I know my escort came with the crank and a notice saying what the hell the crank handle was for in the owners manual booklet.

[sly]

the 93s didn't have that option. If the motor died... you just shoved it for all it's worth to get it to the proper position and then if it was a later model that had the buckle on the top, just disconnect that. The early 93s (like my mom's wagon) didn't have the nifty button release at the top. When it stopped working... you had to crawl out from under the seatbelt. it was rather annoying.

[87gtVIC]

Ah. My 94 has all the seatbelt features then. Which isn't much......

[tyler_hubbard2003]

Update.. Kinda.

Hey Mangs(first time using that one lol) I know you all hate this car and don't understand my logic of how I could choose this on over Charleston.. But theres a bond here and well I finally received the pictures that I had asked for from Ron Ayers @ Classic Cars of South Carolina.. He's a very patient man, as I am very pestering and annoying when it comes to the cars I want. Plus I've been telling him for 2 years I was going to buy the car. Anyways the pictures made me very sad that I haven't bought this car sooner and rescued it before it got put under a big oak tree and left in mud.. The big beauty is hardly as beautiful as she was in those pictures I posted the first time. He hasn't aged well since then.. Rust is going to be a serious issue around the top and the interior due to the vent window fallen down has let the elements make surprise visits. However I still love this car, I just feel guilty for not buying it sooner. She needs a bath from the angel above and hell for that matter.. Oh help me, Jesus :p but he's gonna be a stunner once I'm through with him Yes this car needs a lot of love and most of you probably think he needs to be crushed for a profit but it's my dream car. This one, not the one down the street in someone's garage, but this one that's rotting away into the black abyss..

List of Things to Do:
-MAJOR rust preventive and reforming paint(POR-15 till the cows come home!)
-Vinyl Top Replacement!
-Repair windows
-New weather-strips all the way round
-Repair any Rust Holes(ASAP!)
-Figure out what's wrong with the transmission(What are common problems with c-6's? As far as I can read they have none)
-Tune-up on engine
-Make sure all gauges work( They don't usually not work do they?)
-Lots and Lots of Love!

Tell me what you guys think... and I'll brace myself.

A long time ago

As of yesterday at 6:00pm

[Lincolnmania]

that's pretty nasty mang, theres better ones out there, that rust around the roof is pretty bad......in my opinion that car is best used for parts and turn the rest into cat food cans

[tyler_hubbard2003]

Wow, that's why it took so long to post.. It posted 3 effin times?! But yes there are but there are a lot of nice cars out there for more money.. Money that I don't feel like paying. It's a strange logic when you don't feel like buying something more expensive when I want to buy something cheaper and then put all this money into it.. I have a problem :p

[P72Ford]

By the time you fix it you'll have 3 times the money invested that you would if you just bought a good one to begin with. And, the 'fixed' car won't have near the integrity. I don't think you understand the magnitude of work involved with fixing something that is that far gone. You pay more up front for a better car, but in the end it is always worth it. We have already had this discussion 10 times in this thread.

In my honest opinion, that thing is a junk. It would be a waste of time to fix; the only people who fix stuff that far gone are people restoring something that is worth cubic dollars.

It may seem harsh, but I just don't want to see someone make a foolish mistake.

[tjc78]

By the time you fix it you'll have 3 times the money invested that you would if you just bought a good one to begin with. And, the 'fixed' car won't have near the integrity. I don't think you understand the magnitude of work involved with fixing something that is that far gone. You pay more up front for a better car, but in the end it is always worth it. We have already had this discussion 10 times in this thread.

In my honest opinion, that thing is a junk. It would be a waste of time to fix; the only people who fix stuff that far gone are people restoring something that is worth cubic dollars.

It may seem harsh, but I just don't want to see someone make a foolish mistake.

+1

I really understand your want for this car....It is a rare exterior color, however, the interior was fairly common back then.

Not even counting the mechanicals, which most likely need a full going over the body is a pure mess. The rust around the vinyl alone is a nightmare. You need a replacement driver's door panel, a steering column, probably new carpet and who knows how bad the floor boards are if water has been getting into the interior.

I've had one of these boats. It was a 79 Town Coupe. I bought it cheap, but in running condition and in a hell of a lot better shape than the one you have posted. I bought it to "fix up". Well the rust just was too much to deal with. I inquired about paint, etc. It would have cost me around 8K (this was also 10+ years ago) just to get the body/vinyl and trim up to snuff, with me doing some of the work. I'm not talking show quality, just nice driver quality. Also the rust around the top wasn't all that bad, it was mostly in the lower fenders and rear quarters.

At that point I just decided to drive it (gas was cheap then) I did what I needed to keep it on the road. I eventually junked it (and not to be a dick, but it was still more "saveable" than the one in your post, it still ran but the engine had very low oil pressure).

Here is my bottom line. The car isn't a special edition, its not worth alot even in mint condition, and doesn't have sentimental value (IE it wasn't your Grandfathers, etc). Even if it was free, you will still do better in the long run finding one in better shape. Any day of the week you can find a nice example on Ebay in turn-key condition for 5-7K. You will spend that just to do the body on this one (maybe more).

[LTDMan83]

^The above 2 posters pretty much said it.

Choose to ignore their advice and your gonna have a harsh awakening into reality, after the initial excitement of buying something you really wanted wears off.

[tyler_hubbard2003]

I mainly wanted to show you the pictures. Just because I finally got them. I know you guys are just trying to guide me to a smart decision. But we'll see. Thanks again

+1

I really understand your want for this car....It is a rare exterior color, however, the interior was fairly common back then.

Not even counting the mechanicals, which most likely need a full going over the body is a pure mess. The rust around the vinyl alone is a nightmare. You need a replacement driver's door panel, a steering column, probably new carpet and who knows how bad the floor boards are if water has been getting into the interior.

I've had one of these boats. It was a 79 Town Coupe. I bought it cheap, but in running condition and in a hell of a lot better shape than the one you have posted. I bought it to "fix up". Well the rust just was too much to deal with. I inquired about paint, etc. It would have cost me around 8K (this was also 10+ years ago) just to get the body/vinyl and trim up to snuff, with me doing some of the work. I'm not talking show quality, just nice driver quality. Also the rust around the top wasn't all that bad, it was mostly in the lower fenders and rear quarters.

At that point I just decided to drive it (gas was cheap then) I did what I needed to keep it on the road. I eventually junked it (and not to be a dick, but it was still more "saveable" than the one in your post, it still ran but the engine had very low oil pressure).

Here is my bottom line. The car isn't a special edition, its not worth alot even in mint condition, and doesn't have sentimental value (IE it wasn't your Grandfathers, etc). Even if it was free, you will still do better in the long run finding one in better shape. Any day of the week you can find a nice example on Ebay in turn-key condition for 5-7K. You will spend that just to do the body on this one (maybe more).

Can you tell me what it's like driving these things? Be descriptive as possible and repairs.. Even though you have the 400 I'm guessing. Thanks for the advice btw

[tjc78]

They drive like a bigger Panther. The steering is very easy to turn with no road feel whatsoever. They lean in turns and in around corners. The ride is fantastic, floaty and isolated. I had the 400, but have driven some with the 460. They are not fast. There is plenty of torque available, though and will cruise at 100 MPH if you so dare to.

As for repairs...
Mine ate two alternators, upper arm suspension bushings, brakes and calipers, and I had the A/C fixed. I also did window motors and my headlight doors never stayed down after I shut the car off. (Why did Ford use vacuum for these????? Mark VI owners can sympathize)

The car needed frequent carb adjustments and mine with almost 200K needed plugs often (the engine was tired). I also had to have the bands adjusted on the C6 tranny. Possibly someone here can fill you in on the specific, but basically I had a "loose" 2-3 shift and it was taken care of by the adjustment.

Two things to note about these cars is that the power brakes run off the power steering pump. Ford called it "hydroboost" I am sure that would be pricey (or hard to find parts) to fix. I also believe that the timing set has the nylon gears that can break off and starve the engine for oil (at least the 400 does).

Are you driving this everyday? If so, be prepared for very poor gas mileage. Mine averaged low teens most of the time.

[tyler_hubbard2003]

Okay, well I think My Marquis is going to be my daily for a LONG time, only until I feel it's time for him to be garaged. I will never Marquis, unless it gets totaled... but I've heard of that, I'm not quite sure how it works. How does the car stop? In general or in panic stops? The low teens isn't terrible for what I've been reading, but you also had the smaller engine. 460 can drink and have intake gasket problems.. Thanks though, I've been trying to figure what I could relate it to driving a "bigger panther" that's not so bad Thanks!

[sly]

"bigger panther" will be that much harder to park too. Kinda like parking a full size truck that isn't the short wheelbase.

[tyler_hubbard2003]

Haha Well my daily at the moment is my dad's ' 06 Silverado Crew cab.. It's not that bad because you're higher, I think the car would be more difficult :p