Really Angry Car!?

[sly]

right... hot in acc... not run... brain farted.

your car is probably wired a little different from mine... go figure. and... no... the post fuse power goes to the cornering lights (relay actually) and to the cluster (among other places)... this has nothing to do with how the blinkers/4-ways/corners work after the fact. Fuses blow when current draw is too much and having the initial power line from the fuse that is split off to a dozen things short at one single point in that tree will pop the fuse. Also, since yours IS equipped with cornering lights, it's not an issue since your wire harnesses should be held out of the way since they are actually connected to something. I don't have the fuse definitions for the 86, so I can't make sure if the same stuff is on the same fuse or not. Besides the fact that the fuse table in the manual doesn't actually say what the fuel gauge is connected to for my car. I figured it out when I was troubleshooting mine. occasionally I would be driving and the harness would flop just right onto the e-brake lever and pop the fuse. My fuel gauge would go dead, the AC clutch would disengage if I was using the AC, the clock would go out, the cruise control would stop working, and the power windows would stop working as well. It was fuse 6 in mine that was affected. (attached is the fuse tables for the 88).

basically, get the fuse table... look up the fuse... there's a list of all the crap to trace out to find out where the hell the short is. My issue was that I was looking for "fuel gauge" or "instrument cluster" in the table and that doesn't exist. The fuse that was popping indicated all that stuff, but none of it was the issue. I didn't think to check the cornering lamp wire harnesses since my car is NOT equipped with them, but that's what ended up being the issue for me.

[86VickyLX]

your car is probably wired a little different from mine... go figure. and... no... the post fuse power goes to the cornering lights (relay actually) and to the cluster (among other places)... this has nothing to do with how the blinkers/4-ways/corners work after the fact. Fuses blow when current draw is too much and having the initial power line from the fuse that is split off to a dozen things short at one single point in that tree will pop the fuse. Also, since yours IS equipped with cornering lights, it's not an issue since your wire harnesses should be held out of the way since they are actually connected to something. I don't have the fuse definitions for the 86, so I can't make sure if the same stuff is on the same fuse or not. Besides the fact that the fuse table in the manual doesn't actually say what the fuel gauge is connected to for my car. I figured it out when I was troubleshooting mine. occasionally I would be driving and the harness would flop just right onto the e-brake lever and pop the fuse. My fuel gauge would go dead, the AC clutch would disengage if I was using the AC, the clock would go out, the cruise control would stop working, and the power windows would stop working as well. It was fuse 6 in mine that was affected. (attached is the fuse tables for the 88).

basically, get the fuse table... look up the fuse... there's a list of all the crap to trace out to find out where the hell the short is. My issue was that I was looking for "fuel gauge" or "instrument cluster" in the table and that doesn't exist. The fuse that was popping indicated all that stuff, but none of it was the issue. I didn't think to check the cornering lamp wire harnesses since my car is NOT equipped with them, but that's what ended up being the issue for me.

Jason, keep in mind that the 86 is wired differently than the 87, and your 88.

[sly]

Jason, keep in mind that the 86 is wired differently than the 87, and your 88.

I don't have the fuse definitions for the 86, so I can't make sure if the same stuff is on the same fuse or not.

umm... yeah... posted that much.

[Mike_O]

cornering lights are the small lights on the lower parts of the front fender between the bumper and the front wheel. They come on when you turn the turn signal on.

Oh. Yes, I have those and they work fine.

[Mike_O]

Don't be an ass lol. The cornering lights are not on the same fuse as the warning indicators. If they are then my cars wired wrong or something. Because in accessory, the cornering lights will work with the hazards. If they were on the same circuit, the indicators would also come on.

You mistook my reply for arrogance, I was trying to be funny.

[Mike_O]

I believe the fuse in question is fuse #11.

Does anyone else on the forum have a 1986 MGM LS (I believe the LS is the Canadian equivalent to the GS model)?

[Mike_O]

Turns out my mechanic wants to solve this issue before doing any more work, as he's concerned the electrical system is slowly frying throughout the entire vehicle.

So...it's fuse #11 that's overloading. According to him and his various wiring diagrams, there's like 6 different systems wired into that particular fuse. I'm told that part of my carbeurator might be offline (thus making it harder to start when cold; it does on occasion take about 5 seconds or so before the motor catches).

Does anyone here have any experience troubleshooting the circuit(s) for my particular vehicle? He seems to think that my dashboard was taken from a Crown Victoria because of something to do with the way the engine light is wired up.

Help is appreciated.

[86VickyLX]

Turns out my mechanic wants to solve this issue before doing any more work, as he's concerned the electrical system is slowly frying throughout the entire vehicle.

So...it's fuse #11 that's overloading. According to him and his various wiring diagrams, there's like 6 different systems wired into that particular fuse. I'm told that part of my carbeurator might be offline (thus making it harder to start when cold; it does on occasion take about 5 seconds or so before the motor catches).

Does anyone here have any experience troubleshooting the circuit(s) for my particular vehicle? He seems to think that my dashboard was taken from a Crown Victoria because of something to do with the way the engine light is wired up.

Help is appreciated.

That don't look like a Crown Vic dash to me lol.

I have blown fuses because of the low oil wiring, which is still probably there, even though you don't have the light. I actually blew the fuse because of that, and had the same issue you do...

[Mike_O]

That don't look like a Crown Vic dash to me lol.

I have blown fuses because of the low oil wiring, which is still probably there, even though you don't have the light. I actually blew the fuse because of that, and had the same issue you do...

So if that is indeed the culprit, should I just have the wiring removed completely? Or just replaced?

[Dereck]

Turns out my mechanic wants to solve this issue before doing any more work, as he's concerned the electrical system is slowly frying throughout the entire vehicle.

So...it's fuse #11 that's overloading.

Hi Mike_O

Sure you do not mean fuse 18?

Regards

Dereck

[86VickyLX]

umm... yeah... posted that much.

<3 Love you lol.


@ TomO
Everybody's a freaking comedian.

[85crownHPP]

So...it's fuse #11 that's overloading. According to him and his various wiring diagrams, there's like 6 different systems wired into that particular fuse. I'm told that part of my carbeurator might be offline (thus making it harder to start when cold; it does on occasion take about 5 seconds or so before the motor catches).

The electric choke heater circuit is a strait key-on circuit and is known to short and even catch fire! Good chance it runs in the same loom as the low oil light too...
Look for the black hockey puck on the passenger side of the carb... un-plug its single push-on wire for testing purposes and see how things behave.

[Mike_O]

Hi Mike_O

Sure you do not mean fuse 18?

Regards

Dereck

I'm fairly certain, but not positive.

Something about the carbeurator stepper motor being inoperative.

[Mike_O]

Well, the car's in for an inspection on the wiring systems today.

I'm all nervous.

[mitymerc]

Well, the car's in for an inspection on the wiring systems today.I'm all nervous.

So what did they find? Inquiring minds want to know......