Window help

[91 LTD]

So I finally get around to tackling the front windows. The plan is to get them working again hopefully by replacing the regulator bushings, cause I dont think the motors are dead. I get the door panel off only to find out I have to remove the rivets holding the motors in (if Id read ahead in the shop manual Id have known this). No problemo, but now I have to get some screws to hold it in place when I put it back. At least the track/ guide assemblage looks clean.

My question is do I have to remove the glass prior to removing the motor to replace the bushings?

Any tips/ advice would be awesome. I really want my windows to work again.

[turbo2256b]

You meen the biskets in the gear set in the window motors? If so you dont drill out the rivets. Rivets should be replaced with rivets. Some of were the rivets are blind on the other side verry limited if aany access.

[85crownHPP]

Are you talking about the motor or the regulator???

The replacable bushings inside the motor are what commonly goes bad, and NO rivets need to be removed to remove the motor.

[mrltd]

There are 3 divets on the bottom of the door where you need to drill access holes to take out the 3 5/16" bolts that hold the motor in. NO rivets are to be remove.

[91 LTD]

Are you talking about the motor or the regulator???

The replacable bushings inside the motor are what commonly goes bad, and NO rivets need to be removed to remove the motor.

I believe the bushings I need to replace are in the motor.

[85crownHPP]

then yes dont touch any rivets - heres my window motor thread from the archives - hope it helps!

http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?t=1529

[Lincolnmania]

just drill out the door to get to the bolts......you dont wanna remove the whole regulator.....that's a pita

[91 LTD]

Holes were already drilled. Got the motor out and replaced the bushings. Motor's fried. Looks like it had been replaced already judging from the holes and the "remanufactured" sticker on the window motor. Anyone replace a motor and what brand you use? Read the thread, dont know if I want to bother fixing the motor if its the brushes. It looks like a cheap piece o crap.

[91 LTD]

So I ended up buying a new motor for the driver's side. The old remanufactured one just looked so cheap I figured why even bother trying to fix it. My question is w/ the motor out should the window be able to go down on its own? Cause right now it don't budge. Am gonna lube the crap out of everything while Im at it.

[trwp72]

I know on my Crown Vic, The windows were going up and down really slow... so I cleaned up all the tracks, They had MAJOR gunk, sand, and dirt on them... and put some lubri-plate (or you can use white lithium grease) on all the sliders, and tracks... and it went twice as fast.... This may be why the motor burned up in your car... it was having to work extra hard to get the window up and down.... Usually, you have to put a wedge in the window to keep it from falling when you pull the motor and regulator out... as there is nothing to keep the window up! Tom...

[91 LTD]

Motor's in, window jumps up and down like a gazelle, smooth as silk. Went w/ the $60 motor. Works great. Tracks, etc., were all in good order, now lubed too. 1 down 3 to go, at least all their motors still work. Much thanks for everyone's advice and info.

[gadget73]

Those reman motors seem to kind of suck. The cheap motors also dont seem to work out so well. I've had better luck rebuilding old Ford motors than with new cheapie motors.

[91 LTD]

Went new w/ a $60 Siemens, works great. Hopefully the others havent been replaced w/ remanufactured too. Thurs,= new bushing 4 front pass window.