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    #76
    Thinking about lighting now.

    I had some glass housing Hellas on my old Jeep Cherokee, with really nice bright white bulbs. Wonder if I could find something similar for boxes.

    Did an LED for the license plate light



    George
    1986 Mercury Grand Marquis "5.0" (160,000)

    2011 Ford Crown Victoria "4.6" (54,000)

    2015 Jeep Wrangler JK Willys "3.6" (48,000)

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      #77
      200 miles put on it today,

      Went for a nice 10 mile hike at White Pines State Park in Mt. Morris Illinois, and ice cream in Rochelle to pick back up those lost calories, back to Chicago then.

      Had to wash it when we got home, the bugs were massacred on the front. Running excellent and got 23.1 mpg on this tank.

      George
      1986 Mercury Grand Marquis "5.0" (160,000)

      2011 Ford Crown Victoria "4.6" (54,000)

      2015 Jeep Wrangler JK Willys "3.6" (48,000)

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        #78
        Smart looking car sir.
        Summer car-> 1988 Lincoln Town Car, triple blue, 335,xxx km. New HO 5.0 in and running. Bought 2006/08/22. June 2017 PotM!
        Winter vehicle-> 1995 Ford F-250 XLT SuperCab 4x4, 284,xxx+km. AKA "Brutus" 460/E4OD/4.10 axles and 12 MPG. Bought 2019/08/14

        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          #79
          Originally posted by nfldfordltd View Post
          Smart looking car sir.
          Thank you!


          Ordering LEDs for the cluster soon, how many bulbs are there for illumination? Not going to mess with any of the warning lights, don't see the point.

          George
          1986 Mercury Grand Marquis "5.0" (160,000)

          2011 Ford Crown Victoria "4.6" (54,000)

          2015 Jeep Wrangler JK Willys "3.6" (48,000)

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            #80
            Originally posted by Georges86 View Post
            Thank you!


            Ordering LEDs for the cluster soon, how many bulbs are there for illumination? Not going to mess with any of the warning lights, don't see the point.

            George
            George, there are 5 illumination bulbs on an '89 and older MGM cluster. 2 on the fuel gauge side and 3 on the speedo side.
            I didn't bother swapping bulbs on the warning lights either. Although there are 10 warning/indicator bulbs on an '89-older MGM cluster (looking at my parts cluster right now).
            Vic

            ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
            ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
            ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
            ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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              #81
              Originally posted by Georges86 View Post
              Thank you!


              Ordering LEDs for the cluster soon, how many bulbs are there for illumination? Not going to mess with any of the warning lights, don't see the point.

              George
              If you're changing colors, you'll need to remove the gauges to pop out those color filters. Super simple to remove. When I took out my cluster to redo the lighting, I took the front face cover off, unscrewed, and left the shifter indicator in the car so I wouldn't have to mess with removing the cable from the column and possibly damaging that little collar. That made one less thing to take apart to get the cluster out.

              I also repainted the needles orange while I had it apart. I did it from a stand point of making it stand out from the background.


              My Cars:
              -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
              -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

              -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
              -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
              -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

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                #82
                Thanks! I really appreciate the tips.

                I was planning on staying green, but blue has crossed my mind. Not sure if it'd look "rice or nice"

                Do you happen to remember how many 194 bulbs it takes?

                Also the HVAC would have to be done if I went blue, did you know the number of those off hand?

                Sorry for all the questions!

                George
                1986 Mercury Grand Marquis "5.0" (160,000)

                2011 Ford Crown Victoria "4.6" (54,000)

                2015 Jeep Wrangler JK Willys "3.6" (48,000)

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                  #83
                  Seems everybody is changing their stuff so whenever I see OEM and OEM on purpose it is refreshing.
                  1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
                  1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Georges86 View Post
                    ...
                    Do you happen to remember how many 194 bulbs it takes?
                    ...
                    LOL, look back to the previous page.
                    Originally posted by VicCrownVic View Post
                    Originally posted by Georges86 View Post
                    Thank you!


                    Ordering LEDs for the cluster soon, how many bulbs are there for illumination? Not going to mess with any of the warning lights, don't see the point.

                    George
                    George, there are 5 illumination bulbs on an '89 and older MGM cluster. 2 on the fuel gauge side and 3 on the speedo side.
                    I didn't bother swapping bulbs on the warning lights either. Although there are 10 warning/indicator bulbs on an '89-older MGM cluster (looking at my parts cluster right now).
                    Originally posted by Georges86 View Post
                    ...
                    I was planning on staying green, but blue has crossed my mind. Not sure if it'd look "rice or nice"
                    ...
                    Also the HVAC would have to be done if I went blue, did you know the number of those off hand?
                    ...
                    I have blue LEDs in The Ice Car, but that's a '91 so the cluster is different. I'm not sure how it would look in a real box cluster. You actually wouldn't need to remove the blue filters with blue LEDs, the light might be a smidge brighter without them, but blue light through blue filters shouldn't be a problem.
                    I believe there is just one bulb for the HVAC control head. If you have blue in there you will have a problem with no light shining through the red parts, although I wonder if it would be possible to de-solder one of the SMDs from a red LED bulb and solder it in place of on of the blue SMDs. You might need to put the blue LED bulb in first to determine which SMD is closest/most likely to shine at the red portion of the face.

                    Edit: Actually, I have at least one blue LED at home that I could hook up to a power supply in my parts cluster to see how it looks. If I can find any more blue LEDs I can throw a few in there, but I'm not sure if I have any more left.
                    Last edited by VicCrownVic; 05-02-2017, 08:31 AM.
                    Vic

                    ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
                    ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
                    ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
                    ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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                      #85
                      LOL it was almost 3 am give me a break!

                      I appreciate it though, I'll probably stay with green as everything seems to flow better with that color.

                      I thought about that with the HVAC, unless, you used a blue film filter on the back of the plastic itself? Probably not gonna do it, just thinking out loud.

                      Thanks again for the help guys it really is appreciated!

                      George
                      1986 Mercury Grand Marquis "5.0" (160,000)

                      2011 Ford Crown Victoria "4.6" (54,000)

                      2015 Jeep Wrangler JK Willys "3.6" (48,000)

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                        #86
                        You're good, I just wanted to point it out since the answer slipped to the previous page (at least on a PC with my current forum layout preferences) making it easy to miss.

                        I cut a piece of blue acrylic and placed it inside my clock to try to make it blue, I'm not sure that route was worth the effort. It's considerably bluer than stock now but not an exact match to the LEDs. Also, it's harder to see the clock during the day.
                        Quite some time ago I came across a suggestion from another member to use stain glass paint but that might be a bit harder to remove than the film filter you suggested.
                        Vic

                        ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
                        ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
                        ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
                        ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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                          #87
                          Found a beat Vic in a Kmart parking lot today and an Aero Marq parked next to each other.

                          You know what I had to do.







                          George
                          1986 Mercury Grand Marquis "5.0" (160,000)

                          2011 Ford Crown Victoria "4.6" (54,000)

                          2015 Jeep Wrangler JK Willys "3.6" (48,000)

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                            #88
                            George I think the beat Vic wants to come home with you. Dash pad looks possibly good. Your passenger looks happy!
                            1990 Country Squire - under restoration
                            1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

                            GMN Box Panther History
                            Box Panther Horsepower and Torque Ratings
                            Box Panther Production Numbers

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                              #89
                              That beat one looks better than my beater.

                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                              Originally posted by dmccaig
                              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                                #90
                                That's awesome! I walked out of the store one day and somebody had parked another box next to mine. Glad to still see people driving them around. Pretty unusual around here.

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