1991 p72

[Mr Bean]

So this just happened. Details later.

[nfldfordltd]

Looks good so far.

[Mr Bean]

Pics will come tomorrow when there is light out but here is some background info.

I saw this car pop up for sale about a month ago on Kijiji. It was being sold by a junkyard. I meant to go look at it but never got around to it. The ad expired so I figured it was gone. Well today I went to look at a couple of Navigators for a donor motor for the mod box and was passing by the place that had this box. I figured I would stop by for shits and giggles. Sure enough they still had it. At first glance I expected it to be a pos. Closer look revealed that it was actually in pretty good shape. The undercarriage looks like it's been oil sprayed since new so it is very clean underneath. There are rust bubbles forming around all of the wheel wells near chrome trim. I think it's all surface though so should clean up nicely. The clear coat is shot. According to the owner it was owned by some old guy that passed away. The car sat all summer and they couldn't figure out how to get it started. The key turned in ignition but wouldn't crank. I shorted out the starter relay and it fired right up.

It's a 1991 P72, slicktop with weird options. It's 302, has single exhaust, no power locks, civilian speedo and 3.08 open diff. Interior is velour but door panels have leather/vinyl upholstery.

Apart from the starting issue, the airbag light is on, throttle body needs to be refuckulated because it was kinda seized up and throttle cable looks like a hack job. Oh and I think I blew one of the brake lines when I was pulling it off the dolly because there was a puddle of fluid under the car. Other than that this thing is nice.

[Kodachrome Wolf]

Wonder if the TV grommet is in place...

[Mr Bean]

Wonder if the TV grommet is in place...

Grommet is still there. I think the no start issue could be something related to the brake switch because brake light comes on when I turn the key to run.

[gadget73]

brake light in the dash, or the brake lights on the back of the car? Light in the dash might just be the bulb prove-out. I'd guess more a neutral safety thing. That connector gets shitty sometimes and its right between the ignition switch and the relay. Could be either the connector at the switch or the one in the harness feeding down to the trans. Ford hadn't quite gotten the memo that connectors ought to be sealed.

[Mr Bean]

Brake light on the dash. Not sure about the back of the car.

[sly]

complete with ventshades too. [best TexMex accent]Dat's nice esse.[/accent]

[Mr Bean]

Here are some pics of the petina.

I tried getting to start today. What I thought was a refuckulated throttle cable turned out to be aftermarket cruise control cable. The parking brake switch also had cruise control wires tapped into it. I ripped that shit out but the car still only starts if I jumper the relay.

What I thought was a blown brake line turned out to be a fuel line. It rubbed through on the frame rail.

[89TownCar]

I want it.

[Hearsesrock427]

Wow, that's suprisingly clean especially for the age and intended fucntion! Love how nice those door bottoms are. Glad to see this old P72 went to a good home, these are highly sought after by derby guys.

[Mr Bean]

Funny thing is the car sat at a junkyard for months and a bunch of derby guys looked at it and wanted to buy it but no one came up with the cash.

So can anyone give me some pointers to this no start issue? I checked BOO switch, I have voltage and brake lights turn on. There is voltage at the starter relay with ignition on. The shift interlock appears to be fubar but I don't think that should have any baring on starting. I am assuming if I got voltage at the relay that the ignition switch would be good? Anyone know what pins I could jump on the column to bypass the ignition switch? I hear a click behind the dash on the right hand side when I try to start it using a key.

Could it be the relay?

[sly]

small wire has 12V at the solenoid in crank? bad solenoid. No voltage? check NSS and wiring to and from it. Yes, there is a relay as I think the 91 uses the mini starter instead of the old huge starter and just taps the solenoid from the fat line from the fender solenoid. Here's the wire colors according to my book (same 89-98 at least... could include more years)...
Battery to ignition switch - Yellow
switch to transmission - White/Pink
trans to relay - Red/Light Blue (yup... relay).
relay to gnd - Black
Also should be Yellow from fuse link to the power side of that relay and then Yellow/Light Blue to the fender solenoid. If the fender solenoid small wire is Red/Light Blue, then you probably don't have a relay and just need to dicker with the line going to the fender solenoid through the NSS. And the click you're hearing is probable some relay clicking OFF for an accessory line.

or so I'm thinking.

[Mr Bean]

Small red wire at the solenoid has 12V when the key is in run position. I'll get a new solenoid tomorrow and give it another try.

[87gtVIC]

Nice fine. Dig the color. Good luck with getting it running.