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    #31
    I do not believe my '90 had shift interlock.
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      #32
      I dont remember any of my 91's or 90's having shift interlock, neither.

      1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
      1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
      1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
      2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
      2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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        #33
        I think the brake pedal triggered solenoid shift interlock didn't show up until 92. Should just be a mechanical lock so it can't shift out of park until you turn the key.

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #34
          Probably was ford's way of getting ready for a mandated safety feature on all vehicles?

          1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
          1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
          1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
          2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
          2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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            #35
            Originally posted by sly View Post
            I think the brake pedal triggered solenoid shift interlock didn't show up until 92. Should just be a mechanical lock so it can't shift out of park until you turn the key.
            Ok so that part works. Weird because the mechanism looks exactly like the one on my 96'.

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              #36
              Originally posted by VicCrownVic View Post
              Progress, nice!

              I don't know why I didn't think of this when I read the earlier posts, but the little ground wire on the factory starter is known to corrode. I believe it was due to a crappy spade connector being used from the factory not making good contact. When the factory starter died on my '91 the replacement came with a small lenght of wire with a ring terminal, to replace the spade connector end, and that boltet to the starter for a better connection.

              If the car has the factory starter this may be worth checking.
              Would this cause excessive cranking times? Ashley's usually takes awhile to start but runs flawlessly once it does. My car always fires right up, maybe twist it into start for 1.2 seconds tops, hers, sometimes as bad as three or four seconds.
              1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
              1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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                #37
                could be. definitely worth checking the connectors. If there's corrosion, stuff won't work as well.

                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                Originally posted by gadget73
                ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                Originally posted by dmccaig
                Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DerekTheGreat View Post
                  Would this cause excessive cranking times? Ashley's usually takes awhile to start but runs flawlessly once it does. My car always fires right up, maybe twist it into start for 1.2 seconds tops, hers, sometimes as bad as three or four seconds.
                  The problem I was referring to is specific to the new style starter. I don't know when it was corrected (if it's also an issue on early aeros), but I believe Ashley's 89 TC has the old style starter, so not an issue for her.
                  Vic

                  ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
                  ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
                  ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
                  ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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                    #39
                    I do know that when I put in a new starter in my 88 from a 91 listing that it started much better. The old starter started taking longer to crank right before it started locking up. I didn't take the time to tap tap tap on the starter... I just had AAA tow it home and I replaced it the next weekend.

                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                    Originally posted by dmccaig
                    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                      #40
                      The starter relay grounds through it's mounting bolts. It does not have it's own ground lead. The older ones (CFI and older) with two wires were one small wire to turn the relay on, and one small wire output to feed power to the ignition system.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #41
                        Here's what I was babbling about: http://econtent.autozone.com:24999/z...tbfordpmgr.pdf
                        Vic

                        ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
                        ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
                        ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
                        ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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                          #42
                          oh, the late style. Yeah the trigger wire gets shitty on those.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                            #43
                            It was warm out today so I did a little work on the Vic. Replaced all the spark plugs. The ones I pulled out still looked decent but I swapped them anyway. Pulled the intake and swapped out the PCV. I think it still had the factory one in there. Also fixed throttle cable which was hopelessly rusted. A blow torch and some WD-40 and it's good as new. While I had the throttle body off I installed brass TV cable bushing. The plastic one was still somewhat soft and would've likely lasted for a while. I swapped it anyway. After that I did the fuel filter. The one that was on the car was installed backwards. SMH

                            Also discovered that my power steering fluid looks like someone dumped a few cups of coffee with 2 creams in there. The only reason I looked at the fluid at all is because if I leave the car to sit for a couple of days and then fire it up, for the first few seconds the steering wheel is extremely stiff to turn in one direction. I am hoping this nasty looking fluid will fix the issue. Is there a certain procedure I can use to pump all of the oil fluid out?

                            Lastly, my airbag light is flashing and I don't know why. I tried removing the crash sensor and cleaning it up since it was covered in oil undercoating but no dice, still flashing. Doubt it's the clock spring because the horn still works. Are there any diagnostics I can perform on this?

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                              #44
                              The fix for that on my dads 91 was a piece of black tape over the light. Don't pull the bulb, it will beep at you. Ha.
                              1990 MGM: $50 E7 heads, HO cam, Holley SysteMAX lower intake, HO upper intake with an Explorer TB. LSC ECM. Lincoln logs into stock dual exhaust. K&N drop in air filter. Wide ratio AOD, 2400 converter with a 3.08 one tire fire out back. Car is less slow now. Then there's the '92 Beater. Dual 2.25" exhaust with shiny tips. Rumbles nice. Super slow. Burns oil too.

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                                #45
                                I am not a fan of Homer Simpson repairs though.

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