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    All aboard the failboat!

    After finishing my nephews' toolbox I got back to the 03s interior. It SUCKS.

    Probably because I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground. Also because the Katzkin interiors' clips aren't as good as the OEMs.

    Anyway. As mentioned I had the front seat back done, not hard. I figured out on the seat bottom that you hold these long plastic 'clips' in place and GENTLY tap them with a small hammer to snap them into place. But because of previously mentioned holes in the ground I had to undo the two on the side rails to re-place the leather. Mistake! They split lengthwise Notice though that the OEMs came off without breaking, and out of curiosity I returned to them to see if I could break them - I can't.

    As of right now I've been able to take the little clips off of a 1/2" metal socket holder strip, snap off one of the strip holding bends on one side, bend the other slightly in, and use those as clips. I have my doubts about long term holding power though. I'm heading to the hardware store later to see what I might be able to use.

    I hope to not break crap when I do the drivers seat

    Anyway got the carpet out and cleaned. I discovered that at a wash it yourself place even the high pressure rinse has some sort of detergent in it, too bad so sad. After 2 sunny days outside it's almost dry. Still has some staining on it but heck on it, saved $200, the car ain't perfect, and it'll mostly be covered by the heavy rubber mats going in.

    Pulled the trim strip off the dash, the part that includes the bit that wraps around the climate control and says 'GRAND MARQUIS' in gold on fake wood. Mine was warped, got a good one off ebay. It was so far the simplest thing, to remove it just grap where it wraps around the pass side and gently pull, pop-pop-pop it comes off.

    Stereo wiring placed. I ran the main power through the grommet on the pass side (thanks!) and pushed it through an unused channel on the sill to the back seat, super easy. The RCAs went from front center, under the rear seat heater duct, and back along the center tunnel per you guyses rec. The speaker wire ran the same way on the pass side till the rear seat. Neatly placed and duct taped down. The small gauge trigger wire and 2 extra lines for future rearview camera I just ran across the floor to the rear pass seat where they meet with the main power line and into the trunk.

    Three of the 4 bolts holding the front of the fronts seats broke, because they just screw through a reinforced area of the floor pan and stick out under the car. I've got 1-1/2 of them out, stupid dull drill bits.

    Need the car Friday. Of course. Hope to finish installing the new leather tonight, and drilling out the bolts. If done can get it all back together tomorrow night, at least the carpet and front seats. Optimistic? I would say so but don't really believe it'll happen anyway.

    Then Friday evening off to the other nephews to work on his Supra, timing belt/water pump/complete tuneup. Should be done Saturday hopefully afternoon but could go much faster.

    Thinking about the 03, it's hard to believe I'm almost caught up on it. I get this done, all it NEEDS then is the u-joints, then I can think about the AC and head unit. Strange thought, being 'done'.

    Of course the S-10 is waiting in the wings.

    Pete
    Last edited by Piece-it pete; 10-29-2013, 10:51 AM.
    Originally posted by gadget73
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    2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
    1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
    1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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      After working on it fri-sat-sun-mon I took yesterday off, kinda. I did go to a few hardware stores hoping to find some sort of clip that would work.

      After going through all the fasteners I believe these will do the trick:

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      'Cushioned wire/loom c-clamp', $.95/ea at Sears Hardware. They're flexible enough, they appear to have enough tension to hold and they have the right shape.

      Rather NOT, but beggars can't be choosers. I don't think you'll be able to see them but I'll paint them grey anyway.

      And the leftovers can hold the stereo power wire in the engine compartment.

      Pete
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      2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
      1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
      1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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        Going off in 3... 2... 1....














        I HATE WORKING OFF SITE! For every DANG BLASTED THING I have to drive THIRTY MINUTES each way WASTE OF TIME THIS SUCKS. APARTMENTS SUCK STORAGE SPACES SUCK THIS INTERIOR SUCKS LIFE SUCKS








        Breathbreathbreathbreath I KILL YOU!




        Oh hi, how's it going? No not you, I wouldn't kill you (muttering hell yeah you're the first one to get it).

        I got a little done last night between trips.

        Pete
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        2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
        1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
        1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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          At least the juryrig clips work. With a little practice the job's going better, I'll find out tonight if I can finish the drivers' seat bottom without breaking more stuff.

          Btw, cheap drill bits FTL. I got the mid grade 'cobalt' bit and it barely drilled 3/4 of a bolt out before going dull, this is with lighter pressure and lube, and it was over $6. I guess I'll have to fork over the green for a titanium bit.

          Pete
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          2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
          1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
          1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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            The car, she drives!

            Went and busted my ass to get it ready for today. After working till 10 on it I found out it isn't needed, change of plans

            So anyway, did the other seat bottom and only broke one relatively meaningless small clip. Wasted a few cheap bits on the last broken bolt to no avail, I'll skip it till payday. I might crawl under the car and see if I can get a little pipe wrench on the broken tail.

            Carpet in, looking good. Not perfect, but good Almost forgot to bolt the shoulder belt to the floor before installing drivers' seat. Got a bolt in the front, plugged up the wiring, and wala! the seat worked (phew!). Finished install.

            Realized I had forgotten to install the lumbar switches. No big deal, never used them and it can be easily done in the car.

            Called it a day (night). Taking tonight off and finishing Sat AM. Should be cake, I'm on familiar territory now, no more learning curve. Can't wait to see it done! Looking forward to hearing the new amp too.

            Pete
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            2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
            1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
            1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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              DONE.

              Not just Saturday AM but a good chunk of yesterday too.

              Of course the batteries were dead in the camera (which I actually remembered) so I'll have them up in a couple days. It looks SO MUCH BETTER. And you can't see the juryrigged clips I used unless the front armrests are up.

              One thing, the front seats have side air bags. The factory skins had the mechanism kinda socked into a mesh sleeve, which was then sewn into the outside seam of the seat back, presumably to direct the bag out that way. The new ones don't. I am going to disconnect them. I probably should've pulled them and tried to sell them on ebay.

              Conclusions:

              Doing interiors suck. Maybe not really, maybe the real answer is aftermarket kits suck. It would've been a lot easier if the clips didn't break.

              Using a wash-it-yourself car wash did get a lot of dirt out of the carpet, but it is still somewhat stained even using a quality stain remover on the whole thing. If I was going this far again and had the $, I'd buy new. The rear deck cover did get VERY clean at the car wash though, well worth it and dried completely in 2 days.

              If the front seat bolts break, it's worth trying a pipe wrench on the broken tails sticking out under the car vs drilling them out. I believe they're grade 8 and replaced them with same.

              If you're going to use line level converters at the head unit to connect RCA cables, make sure you get ones with female outputs

              Did I mention working offsite sucks?

              The new amp is much louder than stock of course, 80 wpc x 4, with firmer bass and greater overall clarity. There seems to be more hiss on radio stations, like there's interference, even though the power line is far removed from the RCAs/speaker wires. I have the gain at about 2-3 o'clock and may try backing it down a bit more. I'm also fooling around with the high pass crossover setting front and rear. With the halfway decent speakers I've got bottoming out on hard bass I can see why one would run a sub and bump up the high pass a bit more. I have an old Rockford Fosgate 10" ina small sealed box, and an old amp kicking around, I may end up using it - why not?

              I mounted the amp on the farther left of the trunk and you can see it with the trunk open, very cool. It's a good looker too:



              If only a midgrade one. I made a very nice template of the amp and used longer bolts as studs, bolted them through the seat back cage from the front, then more nuts and neoprene washers to hold the amp out away from the cage about 1-1/2". Looks great and I assume will vent better. It probably would've helped if I noticed that the righthand lower corner was over a big whole in the cage though, d'oh. Still very stable so heck on it, I'm calling it done.

              More inane observations as my defective brain spits them out.

              Pete
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              2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
              1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
              1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                Pics as promised. Man my engine compartment looks crappy under a flash!

                First pic is a before shot:

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                It's even more dramatic than it looks because I didn't have the flash on the before pic.

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                Pics or it didn't happen.

                -ryan s.
                Finally did that too

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                Pete
                Originally posted by gadget73
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                2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
                1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                  Btw, there IS a power point on these cars. It's under the cupholder shelf thingie.

                  Pete
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                  2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
                  1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                  1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                    Very nice work there.
                    03 Marauder DPB, HS, 6disk, Organizer Mods> LED's in & Out, M&Z rear control arms, Oil deflector, U-Haul Trans Pan, Blue Fuzzy Dice
                    02 SL500 Silver Arrow
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                      Thanks. It was a LOT more work than I expected. I hope to never do it again

                      My universals are on my mind. Wholey cow do I need a life. But they're noisy, clanking and thunking.

                      Pete
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                      2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
                      1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                      1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                        Studded snows on! Finally, the gravelly noise of weather security

                        Pete
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                        2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
                        1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                        1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                          Btw I went to install the later pass side wiper arm and it's clocked slightly differently! It's a bit up and out of its' parked area.

                          So, later model drivers side, OK, pass side, bad. And I broke the removal tab on it too.

                          Pete
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                          2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
                          1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                          1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                            Just a comment - being used, I should've cleaned the switches on the amp with deoxit before install. The xover switch for the rear channels is causing an occasional cutout. I'll clean it but it would've been easier before....

                            Pete
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                            2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
                            1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                            1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                              I gotta say that you keep that car looking immaculate! For a DD at that. I woulda given up a long time ago keeping with the looks of a DD.


                              Packman

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                                Thanks! Lotta luck though, if I didn't get the fender bender $ rust would've been showing on the doors.

                                Pete
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                                2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
                                1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                                1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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