Am I reading something ass-backwards, or is your quarterhorse showing a way, way richer mixture than your in-dash gauge?
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85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
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At which point? They both read pretty damn close.Originally posted by johnunit View Post
OBDII got nuttin on me
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Re-watching it, the AFR meter was pegged at 10:1 at the start (before you did the in-car) but I think that it just wasn't active.Originally posted by pantera77 View PostAt which point? They both read pretty damn close.
OBDII got nuttin on me
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)Comment
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Finally completely finished my Mass Air swap on the HPP box. Also successfully got my AEM wideband working with my QuaterHorse.
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2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
1987 Colony Park - 03+ frame swap, blown Gen II Coyote, 6R80, ridetechs, stainless works, absolute money pit. WIPComment
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Looks like you have a very similar air box as I do...with the integrated mass air flow housing and all. Did you have to change anything there like the mass air sensor itself to make this function? Just one of the questions I had in the back of my head when it comes time for me to get this done.
Just watched the video...seems to have answered my question. Looks like I may be okay using it.Last edited by 87gtVIC; 03-24-2013, 02:48 AM.~David~
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But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck
Originally posted by gadget73
my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.
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Very nice progress, I am impressed.
From the pictures and video you posted, the MAF air box installed appears to be a 2004/2005 Police interceptor air box. These air boxes are identified by the MAF sensor being integrated with the air box lid and it uses the newer "blade" style sensor.
The 2003/2004 Marauder air box look similar and flow slightly more air. The MAF sensor will unbolt from the air box lid and it uses the different style sensor. Marauder air boxes are obsolete from Ford.
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Are you using the air temp sensor in the lower manifold or the one built into the late style MAF ?86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
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Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousersComment
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While it is currently running off the 80mm, the transfer functions are completely wrong. Surprisingly the A/F ratio is pretty good, but if I don't make a proper cuvre for the 80mm MAF I will definitely have issues.Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
Good eyes, it's actually an 04 CVPI box, but it's the exact same as the Marauder box, was just the first year for the new slot style MAF.Originally posted by 88grandmarq View PostVery nice progress, I am impressed.
From the pictures and video you posted, the MAF air box installed appears to be a 2004/2005 Police interceptor air box. These air boxes are identified by the MAF sensor being integrated with the air box lid and it uses the newer "blade" style sensor.
The 2003/2004 Marauder air box look similar and flow slightly more air. The MAF sensor will unbolt from the air box lid and it uses the different style sensor. Marauder air boxes are obsolete from Ford.
http://www.blueovalchips.com/index.p...ct_detail&p=16
I actually thought about using the integrated on in the MAF, as it would be easy enough to change the values in Binary Editor to match the lower intake ones, but the air temp sensor in the lower intake works fine so I just left it as is.Originally posted by gadget73 View Post2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
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the lower intake sensor will read quite a bit warmer than the MAF, just so you know (for adjustments and all).
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Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.Comment
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That's why I said I'd have to change the values in BE to match what the lower intake would read.....Originally posted by slymer View Post
It would actually be quite easy but why fix what's not broken.2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
1987 Colony Park - 03+ frame swap, blown Gen II Coyote, 6R80, ridetechs, stainless works, absolute money pit. WIPComment
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thats sort of why I asked, wasn't sure how you were handling it, if at all. Easy way is to just not have to muck with it.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousersComment
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Fuel pump time! Also note that my fuel pump has apparently just been flopping around hanging on by the hose.
2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
1987 Colony Park - 03+ frame swap, blown Gen II Coyote, 6R80, ridetechs, stainless works, absolute money pit. WIPComment
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Oh? the bracket appears to be intact, please to be 'splainin yo'seffOriginally posted by pantera77 View Post2003 Town Car Signature - 3.27 RAR, Dual exhaust and J-mod - SOLD 9/2011
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The bracket wasn't in the rubber "holder" that the pump sits in at all. The pump and the rubber thing it sits in were just kinda rockin' out on the fuel line.2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
1987 Colony Park - 03+ frame swap, blown Gen II Coyote, 6R80, ridetechs, stainless works, absolute money pit. WIPComment
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Correct, the air box is the same. but keep in mind the MAF transfer function is completely different between the 2 style sensors.Originally posted by pantera77 View Post
Good eyes, it's actually an 04 CVPI box, but it's the exact same as the Marauder box, was just the first year for the new slot style MAF.
From the MZT FAQ; "Note 2004+ CVPI 80mm MAF transfer function is different from the Marauder 80mm unit - the MAFs are not interchangeable using the same tune. The Marauder MAF also supports higher peak airflow"
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89 Crown Victoria LX HPP -- SOLD 9/2010
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