Unfortunately I cannot answer your questions but I am very curious to hear what your 351 runs with just upgraded pulleys and exhaust. My 302 with exhaust and better breathing intakes ran a 16.75. Always wondered how a turd 351 compares to a turd 302. lol
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~David~
My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz
Originally posted by ootdega
My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."
Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck
Originally posted by gadget73
my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.
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haha that's about how I expect to run. If I'm in the low 16s at STAP I'll be more than happy. low 17s wouldn't surprise me.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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I ran 16 flat in my red sedan with the 4bbl swap, full exhaust, 3.73s and very ill shifting AOD.
I will be fixing that shifting issue shortly. I will see how the SOTP performance changes.**2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
**2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
**2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
**1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck DutiesComment
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that's about my goal with the holley and intake. In theory at least, my vic should be 2-300 pounds lighter than the red box.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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How do you figure that?
I don't weigh 500 lbs.
**2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
**2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
**2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
**1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck DutiesComment
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the listed curb weight and option list keeps going up and up as the years go on. about a 400 pound difference between a 91 and an 85. I don't know where the difference is, but I have basically no weight-adding options beyond power windows and lock.Originally posted by P72Ford View PostHow do you figure that?
I don't weigh 500 lbs.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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And his is a PI, which is bare bones, carbed, aluminum bumpers...Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
Busy maintaining a fleet of FordsComment
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true. But it does seem to be a constant that all trim levels got heavier as they went on.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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I'd rather run a 16.5 in a mostly stock 351, then a 16.5 in a wagon with ported e7's, explorer intakes, aftermarket cam, headers, and 3.55's.
2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
1987 Colony Park - 03+ frame swap, blown Gen II Coyote, 6R80, ridetechs, stainless works, absolute money pit. WIPComment
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Nice vid! I ran with open headers (through a Y-pipe though) in my old Malibu for half a semester while my jammed shoulder healed up. It wasn't bad cruising on the highway. Everything in between though.......... Then there was the flames coming out from under the car during decelaration. I didn't understand why people were pointing at me at night. Your CV looks like it will be a lot of fun during and after your build-up process. N-JOI!
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I know it's a n00b question but I'm still stuck on getting the crank pulley off. Is the part that the A/C belt rides on all one piece with the part that the accessory belt rides on, or do I need to separate them? They look separate but that seems weird. I don't wanna get too mean and bend something.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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I've got the exhaust (mostly) sorted. currently dumping right at the mufflers.
2 1/2 BBK catted H-pipe, BBK shorty headers, mustang extension pipes+ 8ish inches added on, then thrush weldeds.
I'm not 100% happy with the sound, but here's a quick video of it. It's not warmed up there, hence the throttle blipping while I sat.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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Couldnt hear much to be honest. Looked good taking off though.~David~
My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz
Originally posted by ootdega
My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."
Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck
Originally posted by gadget73
my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.
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haha yeah, it came out pretty quiet, I didn't realize my speakers were cranked. thanks, it does look pretty spiffy there.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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Quick update. I have the crank pulley from the underdrive pulley kit. It required a .875 spacer to fit. The March Fox mustang waterpump pulley does not fit and is the same size as stock anyway. May put the alternator pulley on later but I think I'm on the edge of headlight flickering as it is.
This is also quiet, but just crank the sound up and you'll hear it clearly. You get a reasonable idea of how the exhaust sounds from the inside.
It's got a slight lean miss right before it shifts. I think the exhaust just opened it up too much for the computer to compensate.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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