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    Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
    Mine has a 2G pulley on it, though Ivan put it on so I don't actually know what else is in there. Could be a special spacer, maybe it has a washer doing that job.
    The "special spacer" looks like a washer IIRC.



    87 Ford LTD Crown Victoria Country Squire Station Wagon. 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, Boxed LCA's, Explorer Intake, 65mm T-body, 'Stang Cam, 'Stang Air tube, K&N, GT-40X Heads, 1" Spacer, 1 5/8 BBK's, 2.5" Pypes X-pipe w/high flow cats, Single Chamber Thunderbolts, B&M 'vertor, Po-lice Swaybars.

    91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.

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      Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
      Any thoughts on my idea of having a smaller pulley making it easier on the voltage regulator taking in consideration the fact that I have a crank underdrive pulley installed? Sane, insane?
      Smaller pulley makes alt turn faster. I would ASSume it would put more stress on the reg.

      I have a small "power & amp" pulley on the 80 Capri w/"race" underdrive crank pulley just to keep the batt charged LOL



      87 Ford LTD Crown Victoria Country Squire Station Wagon. 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, Boxed LCA's, Explorer Intake, 65mm T-body, 'Stang Cam, 'Stang Air tube, K&N, GT-40X Heads, 1" Spacer, 1 5/8 BBK's, 2.5" Pypes X-pipe w/high flow cats, Single Chamber Thunderbolts, B&M 'vertor, Po-lice Swaybars.

      91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.

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        The reg doesn't really get stressed, but the alternator has to spin at a certain rpm to make full output power. If you're at normal charging voltage at idle with the headlights, blower, and all the other stuff that is usually turned on running, honestly I wouldn't worry about it. Mine went on in an effort to make up for voltage loss problems I had with the electric fan. The idea was that if the alt spun a little faster, maybe the headlights wouldn't dim so much at idle when the fan was running. It did help, but putting the clutch fan back on helped more. I'm also running the crank underdrive.

        Spacers are basically washers, only thing remotely special about it is how thick the thing is. If its some odd dimension that isn't what a washer or two stacks up to be then its special.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          Everything here works fine and I have no electric fail..I mean fan to worry about.

          Im not going to sweat it.
          ~David~

          My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

          Originally posted by ootdega
          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

          Originally posted by gadget73
          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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            An alternative option would be to pick up a 3G pulley for a '97 Ford Escort (Motorcraft GP-712). It's nearly identical in side to our stock 2G pulley. I have one I'm planning to use on my car once I get around to swapping in the 3G.

            Electrical Parts and More for Your 1997 FORD ESCORT at Reliably Low Prices. Fast Online Catalog. DIY-Easy. Your Choice of Quality. Full Manufacturer Warranty.


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            —John

            1985 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat
            1990 Mercury Grand Marquis LS (POTM March 2017 & May 2019 - gone, but not forgotten)
            1995 Mustang SVT Cobra coupe (cream puff)
            1966 Mustang coupe (restoration in-progress)

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              Hmm. New options. cool.
              ~David~

              My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
              My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

              Originally posted by ootdega
              My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

              Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
              But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

              Originally posted by gadget73
              my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                Originally posted by Giraffe View Post
                An alternative option would be to pick up a 3G pulley for a '97 Ford Escort (Motorcraft GP-712). It's nearly identical in side to our stock 2G pulley. I have one I'm planning to use on my car once I get around to swapping in the 3G.

                Electrical Parts and More for Your 1997 FORD ESCORT at Reliably Low Prices. Fast Online Catalog. DIY-Easy. Your Choice of Quality. Full Manufacturer Warranty.


                https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/mo...or+pulley,2448


                So. Dad had an order for rock auto and it happened to have a shared shipper location so I picked up the pulley mentioned above and it is just a bit larger in size as compared to the stock 2g set up.

                3g on the left of screen and stock panther 2g on right:



                New GP-712 on left of screen and stock panther 2g on right:



                new GP-712 on left of screen and stock panther 2g on right:





                I haven't installed anything....winter project as nothing is urgent/necessary.
                Attached Files
                ~David~

                My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                Originally posted by ootdega
                My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                Originally posted by gadget73
                my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                  How's the depth on that pulley? Will it seat in the same position as the 3g/2g pulleys?

                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                  rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                  Originally posted by dmccaig
                  Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                    That pulley is the factory 3G pulley you would find on a 1997 Ford Escort. I know of at least one Mustang guy on another forum who is running that pulley without issue (that's where I got the idea).
                    —John

                    1985 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat
                    1990 Mercury Grand Marquis LS (POTM March 2017 & May 2019 - gone, but not forgotten)
                    1995 Mustang SVT Cobra coupe (cream puff)
                    1966 Mustang coupe (restoration in-progress)

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                      Originally posted by sly View Post
                      How's the depth on that pulley? Will it seat in the same position as the 3g/2g pulleys?
                      Havent compared.

                      Originally posted by Giraffe View Post
                      That pulley is the factory 3G pulley you would find on a 1997 Ford Escort. I know of at least one Mustang guy on another forum who is running that pulley without issue (that's where I got the idea).
                      Sounds like it is exactly the same then as we expected. Will find out for sure once I bother doing anything about it.
                      ~David~

                      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                      Originally posted by ootdega
                      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                        Put her away for the season....Not before taking it for one last spin. Compiled sound clips into a brief video from the dash cam.....Love that AOD whirring noise in first. lol


                        ~David~

                        My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                        My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                        Originally posted by ootdega
                        My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                        Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                        But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                          Originally posted by dmccaig
                          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                            The AOD sound is so great that you should totally consider keeping it and selling me all your manual transmission conversion goodies haha.

                            You car does sound good especially in the mid range like when you passed an newish F150 in the video.
                            1990 Country Squire - under restoration
                            1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

                            GMN Box Panther History
                            Box Panther Horsepower and Torque Ratings
                            Box Panther Production Numbers

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                              The AOD whine reminds me of school busses when I was a kid. Not sure what they used, but they were a very whiny and clunky automatic.
                              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                              Originally posted by phayzer5
                              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                                Originally posted by Tiggie View Post
                                The AOD sound is so great that you should totally consider keeping it and selling me all your manual transmission conversion goodies haha
                                Tiggie is right, get rid of all that junk.
                                How much do you want for it? LOL

                                It does sound vicious, I like the tire chirps in second!



                                87 Ford LTD Crown Victoria Country Squire Station Wagon. 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, Boxed LCA's, Explorer Intake, 65mm T-body, 'Stang Cam, 'Stang Air tube, K&N, GT-40X Heads, 1" Spacer, 1 5/8 BBK's, 2.5" Pypes X-pipe w/high flow cats, Single Chamber Thunderbolts, B&M 'vertor, Po-lice Swaybars.

                                91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.

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