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    Originally posted by jaywish View Post
    Did you count the wheel turns lock to lock?

    If not, could you count the new lock to lock?
    I did...hmmmm I know it was over one and under two from center to a lock. Just around one and a half turns from center to lock, left or right. You can figure out the rest.

    Originally posted by Mr Bean View Post
    Looks good. The video showing play looks like every single OEM box that I've seen though. I looked at dozens of cars in the junkyard from civillian to PI and they all had that slop.
    sloppy sloppy.
    ~David~

    My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
    My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

    Originally posted by ootdega
    My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

    Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
    But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

    Originally posted by gadget73
    my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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      Has it changed?
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        hm, I don't recall removing the sway bar on mine when the box was changed. Pretty sure we just dropped it and fished it around the bar. Well, whatever works. Sloppy box is sloppy.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          Originally posted by jaywish View Post
          Has it changed?
          From muscle memory I believe it is the same.

          Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
          hm, I don't recall removing the sway bar on mine when the box was changed. Pretty sure we just dropped it and fished it around the bar. Well, whatever works. Sloppy box is sloppy.
          I got the big addco 1 1/4" bar...I also didn't want to fight around it or mess up the coating on it. Figured it would just be simpler to get it out the way.
          ~David~

          My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

          Originally posted by ootdega
          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

          Originally posted by gadget73
          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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            Clean install, might I ask what the reason was for doing this? Firmer steering? Or..
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            1985.03 Crown Vic. Coupe "CVGT" Build thread - china whirlybird, burnout machine.
            The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

            Originally posted by SVT98t
            It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

            That is how you're supposed to jack it.

            Up and down.

            -ryan s.

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              Nice work Dave. That box is a lot stiffer isn't it? Every time I go to drive the 89 compared to my other cars I'm like "holy crap".
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                Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                I got the big addco 1 1/4" bar...I also didn't want to fight around it or mess up the coating on it. Figured it would just be simpler to get it out the way.
                Ah. Old rusty wagon bar on mine. Not much concern about the cosmetics of that thing.,
                86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                Originally posted by phayzer5
                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                  Nice install, let us know your thoughts once you get some seat time.
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                  Originally posted by Lincolnmania
                  if its got tits or tires it's bound to give you trouble

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                    Seat time was today after the wet/misty weather passed.

                    Took it out an within a few blocks I realized that the steering wheel was off center. I remember hearing about this from another member.Mine was at the 11 o'clock position coincidentally so was his...

                    So I turned around and headed home. Got out the toe plates and proceeded to get my steering wheel centered. Took a couple times to get it right. 5 times for me to be exact. After each try I take the car for a spin and see whats up. I loosen the adjusting sleeved and make sure the wheels turn in the direction of where the steering wheel is wrongly pointing. This gets your steering wheel centered and when you do each side (adjusting sleeves) evenly your toe goes unaltered.

                    I then took the car out for a speed run. I felt a helluva lot more confident with this nice stiff steering box than I did with the stock one. I say if you like going fast around long curvy roads that this is a must. Nice response/feedback from the wheel. It is like there is just enough resistance to help you stay in control and turn the wheel only as much as you need to. With the stock box it is very easy to turn it to quickly, this new box eliminates that problem.

                    Another nice thing about the mod is that if you are on the go pedal while hitting a rough patch of road you no longer sway back and forth because of your body being thrown around. The steering has enough stiffness to eliminate that problem almost entirely. I know with the stock box and me making turns spiritedly that I would normally have the car going wherever my arms were being tossed from the road. Now all gone.

                    I like it. I have already become used to the stiffer steering and it is not much of an annoyance on simple turns around town.
                    ~David~

                    My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                    My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                    Originally posted by ootdega
                    My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                    Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                    But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                      Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                      Seat time was today after the wet/misty weather passed.

                      Took it out an within a few blocks I realized that the steering wheel was off center. I remember hearing about this from another member.Mine was at the 11 o'clock position coincidentally so was his...

                      So I turned around and headed home. Got out the toe plates and proceeded to get my steering wheel centered. Took a couple times to get it right. 5 times for me to be exact. After each try I take the car for a spin and see whats up. I loosen the adjusting sleeved and make sure the wheels turn in the direction of where the steering wheel is wrongly pointing. This gets your steering wheel centered and when you do each side (adjusting sleeves) evenly your toe goes unaltered.

                      I then took the car out for a speed run. I felt a helluva lot more confident with this nice stiff steering box than I did with the stock one. I say if you like going fast around long curvy roads that this is a must. Nice response/feedback from the wheel. It is like there is just enough resistance to help you stay in control and turn the wheel only as much as you need to. With the stock box it is very easy to turn it to quickly, this new box eliminates that problem.

                      Another nice thing about the mod is that if you are on the go pedal while hitting a rough patch of road you no longer sway back and forth because of your body being thrown around. The steering has enough stiffness to eliminate that problem almost entirely. I know with the stock box and me making turns spiritedly that I would normally have the car going wherever my arms were being tossed from the road. Now all gone.

                      I like it. I have already become used to the stiffer steering and it is not much of an annoyance on simple turns around town.

                      Yeah, it's like night and day when I get in my box compared to my whale.. They box you can steer with a pinky while as the whale you have to muscle it around. Well and the fact that I think my power steering is on its way out on the whale.
                      __________________________________________________


                      1985.03 Crown Vic. Coupe "CVGT" Build thread - china whirlybird, burnout machine.
                      The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

                      Originally posted by SVT98t
                      It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

                      That is how you're supposed to jack it.

                      Up and down.

                      -ryan s.

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                        Originally posted by Bobcat View Post
                        Clean install, might I ask what the reason was for doing this? Firmer steering? Or..
                        Thanks Logan. Yes. And boredom and just because it can be done but mainly for the tighter steering.

                        Originally posted by pantera77 View Post
                        Nice work Dave. That box is a lot stiffer isn't it? Every time I go to drive the 89 compared to my other cars I'm like "holy crap".
                        Thanks. Yep. First time I moved it I was shocked at how heavy it was.

                        Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                        Ah. Old rusty wagon bar on mine. Not much concern about the cosmetics of that thing.,
                        I am pretty paranoid about keeping nice looking things nice looking.
                        ~David~

                        My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                        My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                        Originally posted by ootdega
                        My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                        Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                        But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                          The old box had enough slop in it that I expect you'd have gotten noticeable improvements just from a fresh one. I like the stiffer steering too though, with most of the same reasons why. The hyper-sensitive steering really sucks if you sneeze at speed. I've nearly run people off the road from that before.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                            I typically let go of the wheel for that split second just so I don't swerve... or jab my elbow into the armrest on the door as I sneeze.

                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                            rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                            Originally posted by dmccaig
                            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                              I may look into doing this.. I somewhat prefer my dead weight steering on the whale.
                              __________________________________________________


                              1985.03 Crown Vic. Coupe "CVGT" Build thread - china whirlybird, burnout machine.
                              The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

                              Originally posted by SVT98t
                              It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

                              That is how you're supposed to jack it.

                              Up and down.

                              -ryan s.

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                                That was the second repair made to my CV. Though I replaced mine with a stock steering box. It was not long after that I noticed the hyper sensitive steering. I didn't know at the time that the old box was that worn out. I attributed it to an aged suspension that would cause the CV to wander on the highway. In any event, after I changed the front suspension, all that went away.


                                Packman

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