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**87gtVIC** · 07-19-2014, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by jaywish View Post

Did you count the wheel turns lock to lock?

If not, could you count the new lock to lock?

I did...hmmmm I know it was over one and under two from center to a lock. Just around one and a half turns from center to lock, left or right. You can figure out the rest.

Originally posted by Mr Bean View Post

Looks good. The video showing play looks like every single OEM box that I've seen though. I looked at dozens of cars in the junkyard from civillian to PI and they all had that slop.

sloppy sloppy.

**jaywish** · 07-19-2014, 09:48 PM

Has it changed?

**gadget73** · 07-19-2014, 10:50 PM

hm, I don't recall removing the sway bar on mine when the box was changed. Pretty sure we just dropped it and fished it around the bar. Well, whatever works. Sloppy box is sloppy.

**87gtVIC** · 07-20-2014, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by jaywish View Post

Has it changed?

From muscle memory I believe it is the same.

Originally posted by gadget73 View Post

hm, I don't recall removing the sway bar on mine when the box was changed. Pretty sure we just dropped it and fished it around the bar. Well, whatever works. Sloppy box is sloppy.

I got the big addco 1 1/4" bar...I also didn't want to fight around it or mess up the coating on it. Figured it would just be simpler to get it out the way.

**Bobcat** · 07-20-2014, 11:26 AM

Clean install, might I ask what the reason was for doing this? Firmer steering? Or..

**pantera77** · 07-20-2014, 12:05 PM

Nice work Dave. That box is a lot stiffer isn't it? Every time I go to drive the 89 compared to my other cars I'm like "holy crap".

**gadget73** · 07-20-2014, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post

I got the big addco 1 1/4" bar...I also didn't want to fight around it or mess up the coating on it. Figured it would just be simpler to get it out the way.

Ah. Old rusty wagon bar on mine. Not much concern about the cosmetics of that thing.,

**tjc78** · 07-20-2014, 01:12 PM

Nice install, let us know your thoughts once you get some seat time.

**87gtVIC** · 07-20-2014, 02:43 PM

Seat time was today after the wet/misty weather passed.

Took it out an within a few blocks I realized that the steering wheel was off center. I remember hearing about this from another member.Mine was at the 11 o'clock position coincidentally so was his...

So I turned around and headed home. Got out the toe plates and proceeded to get my steering wheel centered. Took a couple times to get it right. 5 times for me to be exact. After each try I take the car for a spin and see whats up. I loosen the adjusting sleeved and make sure the wheels turn in the direction of where the steering wheel is wrongly pointing. This gets your steering wheel centered and when you do each side (adjusting sleeves) evenly your toe goes unaltered.

I then took the car out for a speed run. I felt a helluva lot more confident with this nice stiff steering box than I did with the stock one. I say if you like going fast around long curvy roads that this is a must. Nice response/feedback from the wheel. It is like there is just enough resistance to help you stay in control and turn the wheel only as much as you need to. With the stock box it is very easy to turn it to quickly, this new box eliminates that problem.

Another nice thing about the mod is that if you are on the go pedal while hitting a rough patch of road you no longer sway back and forth because of your body being thrown around. The steering has enough stiffness to eliminate that problem almost entirely. I know with the stock box and me making turns spiritedly that I would normally have the car going wherever my arms were being tossed from the road. Now all gone.

I like it. I have already become used to the stiffer steering and it is not much of an annoyance on simple turns around town.

**Bobcat** · 07-20-2014, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post

Seat time was today after the wet/misty weather passed.

Took it out an within a few blocks I realized that the steering wheel was off center. I remember hearing about this from another member.Mine was at the 11 o'clock position coincidentally so was his...

So I turned around and headed home. Got out the toe plates and proceeded to get my steering wheel centered. Took a couple times to get it right. 5 times for me to be exact. After each try I take the car for a spin and see whats up. I loosen the adjusting sleeved and make sure the wheels turn in the direction of where the steering wheel is wrongly pointing. This gets your steering wheel centered and when you do each side (adjusting sleeves) evenly your toe goes unaltered.

I then took the car out for a speed run. I felt a helluva lot more confident with this nice stiff steering box than I did with the stock one. I say if you like going fast around long curvy roads that this is a must. Nice response/feedback from the wheel. It is like there is just enough resistance to help you stay in control and turn the wheel only as much as you need to. With the stock box it is very easy to turn it to quickly, this new box eliminates that problem.

Another nice thing about the mod is that if you are on the go pedal while hitting a rough patch of road you no longer sway back and forth because of your body being thrown around. The steering has enough stiffness to eliminate that problem almost entirely. I know with the stock box and me making turns spiritedly that I would normally have the car going wherever my arms were being tossed from the road. Now all gone.

I like it. I have already become used to the stiffer steering and it is not much of an annoyance on simple turns around town.

Yeah, it's like night and day when I get in my box compared to my whale.. They box you can steer with a pinky while as the whale you have to muscle it around. Well and the fact that I think my power steering is on its way out on the whale.

**87gtVIC** · 07-20-2014, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by Bobcat View Post

Clean install, might I ask what the reason was for doing this? Firmer steering? Or..

Thanks Logan. Yes. And boredom and just because it can be done but mainly for the tighter steering.

Originally posted by pantera77 View Post

Nice work Dave. That box is a lot stiffer isn't it? Every time I go to drive the 89 compared to my other cars I'm like "holy crap".

Thanks. Yep. First time I moved it I was shocked at how heavy it was.

Originally posted by gadget73 View Post

Ah. Old rusty wagon bar on mine. Not much concern about the cosmetics of that thing.,

I am pretty paranoid about keeping nice looking things nice looking.

**gadget73** · 07-20-2014, 03:34 PM

The old box had enough slop in it that I expect you'd have gotten noticeable improvements just from a fresh one. I like the stiffer steering too though, with most of the same reasons why. The hyper-sensitive steering really sucks if you sneeze at speed. I've nearly run people off the road from that before.

**sly** · 07-20-2014, 04:19 PM

I typically let go of the wheel for that split second just so I don't swerve... or jab my elbow into the armrest on the door as I sneeze.

**Bobcat** · 07-20-2014, 04:21 PM

I may look into doing this.. I somewhat prefer my dead weight steering on the whale.

**packman** · 07-21-2014, 11:24 AM

That was the second repair made to my CV. Though I replaced mine with a stock steering box. It was not long after that I noticed the hyper sensitive steering. I didn't know at the time that the old box was that worn out. I attributed it to an aged suspension that would cause the CV to wander on the highway. In any event, after I changed the front suspension, all that went away.

Packman

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