My winter beater.... sort of

[Tiggie]

Are those LED's lighting the rear license plate?

[Mr. Land Yacht]

hmm...is it just me or does the back end look a little low?
not too noticable...but still there

[88Vic]

Modular motors can't make a whole lot of power without forced induction.

To rephrase that,they can't without spending a whole lot of money versus not as much as a pushrod motor.

[P72Ford]

Modular motors can't make a whole lot of power without forced induction.

I tend to agree with this statement to a certain extent

depends on how much is a lot .....

http://www.seanhylandmotorsports.com...-modular.shtml

Those are stout numbers for a 4.6. A while back in MM&FF they featured an '02 GT vert, with an all engine 4.6. Barely mustered 330 whp running good gas. Power can be made with these engines, especially with a turbo/ supercharger. You can spend more and have a more streetable mod engine, that gets some mileage, or you can spend less and have a a pushrod engine that makes power, is simpler, and may get slightly worse mileage. Both engines have their pros and cons.

Mod engines are definitely NOT junk though, whether you like them or not. A 4.6 is only 281 ci, and Ford squeezes a solid 300hp out of the 24V in the new stangs. Thats pretty impressive. The engine efficiency is greater with a mod engine; can you imagine if '87-93' stangs made more than 1 hp/ cid?

I'll admit, I like the pushrod engines myself, but I definitely respect the modular units.

[Nathan in MI]

What is it that seems to hold the 4.6 back, anyway? They seem like they ought to be capable of making plenty of horsepower, being OHC and all. Is it poorly flowing heads/intake? Too mild of a cam profile? Just seems odd from Michael's link that you would pay 17 grand for only (HA! Only...) 600 horsepower.

[Dave84]

Just re-tune the computer if you want power.

[P72Ford]

What is it that seems to hold the 4.6 back, anyway? They seem like they ought to be capable of making plenty of horsepower, being OHC and all. Is it poorly flowing heads/intake? Too mild of a cam profile? Just seems odd from Michael's link that you would pay 17 grand for only (HA! Only...) 600 horsepower.

I once read that the 2V 4.6 was a very good basis for performance builds. The person who said this (read on a mag website) reasoned this because the the intake ports drop right down into the cc. There is a straight shot right into the engine.

I believe the largest drawback is the lack of displacement. It seems funny that a 20 ci deficit would cause this, but I can't see where else the bottleneck comes from. Perhaps the bores are smaller, preventing the use of larger valves to make it really breath?

One thing I've noticed about modular engines, they seem to sound nasal. I mean, of you here a pushrod engine (even a low power one) with loud pipes, you can almost feel it. The power that it does make sounds like it comes from deeper within the engine (I really don't explain myself too well). A modular engine tends to sound nasal to me, as though all the power is produced right up top in the heads, which it is.

Am I being incoherent?... okay, I'll stop now...

[Nathan in MI]

I believe the largest drawback is the lack of displacement. It seems funny that a 20 ci deficit would cause this, but I can't see where else the bottleneck comes from.

I was kinda wondering the same thing. Maybe it's just because it's a relatively new engine and the aftermarket hasn't come up with that many good designs? I mean, if the aftermarket for the SBF was poor, we'd say, wow, what a crappy engine, the best they can do is 225 horsepower!

[P72Ford]

In MM&FF they can push 700+ hp to the wheels with a 4.6, but its using a turbo. There always a mess of cars in there with the mod engines that make well over 600 whp. They all use power adders though. There is considerable aftermarket for these engines, its just that these days people like to make power the easy way (and arguably more streetable way), with turbos and blowers. Gone are the days of doing it the hard way (NA). I still like free breathing engines myself.

[Mr. Land Yacht]

yea, those reasons sound possible...why it cant get much power that is.

I would like to see Ford possibly drop the 4.sux and put a OHC 5.Go in the Vics.

[Dave84]

The only good OHC engine for made was the 427. Even the 2.3 was better then the 4.6.

[Grandmarchris]

(400 HP 4.6 SOHC
SHM2V400
4.6 cast iron block, filled with a forged steel crankshaft, forged rods and 9.6-1 compression forged pistons. PORTED PI cylinder heads are fitted with oversize stainless valves and high performance beehive valve springs. A pair of billet camshafts, ground with our HOT STREET cam grind provide a broad powerband and the lopey idle of a hot rod engine, Billet fuel rails, polished billet throttle body and cast aluminum valve covers complete this engine package.
$10,995.00)

Its a dressed 400 Horse STREET ROD motor...Theres alot more that can be squeezed out of that block thats for sure..

Good luck making that kind of power with a 5.slow without spliting the block like a fat guys dockers

But 10K for a 400 horse "Hot Street" motor FTL

[P72Ford]

Stay tuned for Fords latest "Hurricane" engine project. I remember reading about 5.8 and 6.2 engines possibly debuting. All I know is this: a 5.8 is a 351, and that is absolutely awesome if they re-introduce a new 351.

I read recently in MM&FF that Don Bowles has been racing a late model Mustang with this new experimental engine in it (Roush prepped car, IIRC). It runs on E85 and posts times in the low 9's.

I am done jacking this thread: The Aero featured at the start of the thread is remarkably clean looking. Nice DD/ winter beater