Almost there Mangs!!!*DUW*

[Grand Marquis GT]

He still paid money to have them modified. I'd be kicking the dude's ass.

[1987cp]

Tom, you know the problem with the steering shaft on the driver side is well documented, so I bet they modified the header to avoid that and just assumed the passenger side will fit cause no shaft or linkage to get in the way and never actually mocked it up.

I don't know. I had MAJOR fitment issues with the same header on the passenger side of my car. Hit the starter and the framerail, big time, so I just sold those headers and got shortys. But Colin said his friend said there would be no clearance issues on the passenger side, so who knows. Probably a mini-starter is in order, at the very least.

[Nathan in MI]

Here's the thing, though--the guy that modified them test fitted them on his car. A '91. Colin's car is an '88, and while I'm not sure exactly what all the differences are between '79-'89 and '90-'91, I do know that there are some slight differences in the floorpans. Couldn't that potentially cause the issue?

[Mr. Land Yacht]

yea, Mike...thats exactly what my uncle said...I think they can still be modded to fit...there's a local exhaust shop right near my uncle's shop...they do good work for good prices..they did bobert's exhaust setup(duals, all new piping, Hpipe and mufflers provided by customer) for $275...thats slightly less then what mine cost($293).
if they want anything north of $100-120 to mod that one side, I'll sell these headers to someone with a 90-91 and buy Summit's 1 5/8" shorties.

oh yea, midwestLTD, it is Gunmetal metallic with clearcoat.

[packman]

1 day left!!!! I wouldn't be sleeping at all.


Packman

[1987cp]

Sounds like a good option. I'd still thow a ministarter on there to minimize fitment issues, though - unless of course the further header mods to fit around a normal starter would be less than a ministarter would cost. :p Good luck!

[Mr. Land Yacht]

you think a mini starter would solve the issue Mike?

yea, Packman..I'm on pins/needles right now...because I know he's going to have some time tonite to work on it...we're going to drop off the shorties tonite.

[Lincolnmania]

what header wont clear the starter?......try a 90+ 5.0 starter....they are much smaller

[1987cp]

you think a mini starter would solve the issue Mike?

I can't guarantee it'd fix the issue entirely, but if your situation looks like mine did, it should at least help. Mine looked like it would have still touched the framerail even with a smaller starter, and may even have still needed some clearancing around the starter itself, but since I just tried to shove it in there after reinstalling my stock starter, I can't be certain. I don't suppose someone near there has an extra small starter you could play with?

[Mr. Land Yacht]

oh, so 90-91 starters ARE smaller than 79-88...that makes sense right there...

[Nathan in MI]

From what you told me, though, it sounded like the starter wasn't what was in the way.

You know, if you got a 5 speed, you could just park on hills and start it like that. No starter=no problems.

[Mr. Land Yacht]

:lol:

yea...ok..time to get me a Tremec now.

[86VickyLX]

Actually that wasn't what I was sad about, but now that you mention it, I'm incredibly hurt by you laughing at me, you big meanie head!

Meanie head? I'm no meanie head. Besides, I apologized.

[86VickyLX]

oh, so 90-91 starters ARE smaller than 79-88...that makes sense right there...

He said the '90 and up HO starter is much smaller.

[Mr. Land Yacht]

ok..so its the HO starter that's smaller..not the lopo one right?