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    Thanks all!


    So far things have been... good. The VV has treated me to single pump starts around 30 degrees (still with the cold enrichment solenoid disconnected), but the economy is lacking. From my return trip in SC and a little in town puttering around, I recorded 10.6 MPG. I'd argue the VV might be on the rich side, as it smells that way from the exhaust, and hot idle in gear is not as smooth as one might expect, however still considerably better than the worn out one. I'd be inclined to think it's loading up a bit, however there's no smoke or soot coming out of the tailpipes anymore. It has plenty of getup if you give it modest throttle, and cruises easily at light throttle without odd surging, but I've got my thoughts about that unit. Arguably a shame since I can see the merits to how the VV works and arguably how crisp the throttle response is.

    I've checked for dragging brakes, but none of the wheels have excessive heat similar to when the parking brake cable hung on the driver's rear.

    Now there is one other thought I've had, but I doubt is as dramatic of a factor, and that is the carburetor vent line. The vent solenoid has long since gone missing from what I can tell. I tried to pop one from a VV7200 Fox Continental at the junkyard, but the plastic barbs gave up. Presently the vent just connects down to the charcoal canister via a standard emissions hose without the solenoid. Arguably, I doubt that would cause significantly poor economy.


    Still, I may follow Tiggie's recommendation about finding a good rebuildable 2150, or perhaps an earlier Autolite 2100. The 350 cfm Holley 2300 also comes to mind as another suitable option, but I'm inclined to best research the options first before throwing more money at carburetors and related components. For now, the car still runs better than it has since I got it, and perhaps I'll turn my attention to a few other general maintenance/minor things, such as a transmission filter and pan gasket replacement plus band adjustment, window felt replacement for the passenger front door, adjusting the passenger sun visor, and giving the exterior an actual mild polish job.


    My Cars:
    -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
    -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

    -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
    -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
    -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

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      Put a 4bbl on it. Big 2bbl carbs honestly suck for light throttle cruise. The hole is too big and the atomization is lacking. They also fail to make the proper noises.
      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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        Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
        Put a 4bbl on it. Big 2bbl carbs honestly suck for light throttle cruise. The hole is too big and the atomization is lacking. They also fail to make the proper noises.
        I'll come to bring news of disappointment, and I installed a Autolite 2100 (D0AF-F), one of the 1.23 units (~356 CFM). Price was right for a nicely refurbished unit.




        Is it as crisp at light throttle tip in as the VV? No. Does it run pig rich? Also no. That was an obvious smell that's gone away, and idle in gear is considerably smoother. Not really any idle circuit adjustments on a VV, so not much to do about that except look at the service manual more, however it'll probably spend some good time on a shelf before I think about it again. Only took a bit of time with a vacuum gauge and tachometer getting the 2100 set, but it performs respectably with no weird behavior at cruise or light throttle tip in.


        My Cars:
        -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
        -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

        -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
        -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
        -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

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          Excellent choice. I think that's one of the largest, if not the largest venturi size of the 2100/2150. Same as on my 360 in the F250.
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          1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

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            The problem with the big venturi is that poor low throttle mixing thing I mentioned. it makes it a lot less "crisp".
            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

            Originally posted by phayzer5
            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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              Originally posted by Tiggie View Post
              Excellent choice. I think that's one of the largest, if not the largest venturi size of the 2100/2150. Same as on my 360 in the F250.
              ​There is indeed a 1.33 venturi, or ~424 CFM unit. I figure that must have been sized out for something like a 390, unless they also landed on those odd displacement medium truck engines.

              Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
              The problem with the big venturi is that poor low throttle mixing thing I mentioned. it makes it a lot less "crisp".
              I knew it was coming, but it doesn't feel like a dog at least on this engine, even at light throttle applications. You can just tell you've got tall gears if you stab it from a standstill, but it'll give you a respectable pull clear up to 55 MPH in 1st gear.​



              Did do some minor piddly stuff since I had a little time last weekend.



              Replaced the window felts in both front windows, specifically because the passenger side was cracked fully through in one spot. Took the time to toss some vent shades in. Haven't done the rears since I need to find some good felts to stick back there. I know if I try to pop them, they'll crumble like the fronts did. At least the driver side was still semi-pliable on the pillar edges, which made pulling them easier. Had to pop the door panel on the passenger side to fully remove the petrified chunks.



              Fixed the cluster illumination. Used my warm white LEDs on the top, and good 168s on the bottom. I know specifically the upper left bulb was working, and possibly the bottom right bulb, which made reading the cluster rather poor. The camera definitely hammed it up a bit with the exposure, but it's still considerably brighter and easier to read now.

              A weeping power steering return line was replaced where the soft section was going bad. Just used some transmission oil cooler hose I had and cut it to length. Refilled with fresh Type F and the pump is dead silent.

              Rehung the passenger side sun visor after doing a little crimp work to the visor itself and adjusting the bracket to have less droop. The visor for the most part stays where it should without flopping about. Still might look into retrofitting later visors with the inboard clips for better long term results.


              Finally, today I serviced the transmission.


              The froth in the fluid is some brake cleaner that got sprayed into it. Going by the bobber, the SelectShift hasn't been opened up since new. Fluid wasn't burnt or shiny, just dark from age and smelled like normal ATF. Swapped the filter and fitted a drain plug equipped transmission pan. Took the time to perform a band adjustment since I was there. Refilled the transmission with Type F and took it for a spin. Shifts certainly felt a bit more crisp. The hot 2-3 shift flare seems to have also been quelled for now.


              Gonna head up to Salisbury, NC tomorrow and catch the tail end of the first Sipping and Switching event. I think with how the car has been running, it should manage the ~200 mile trip up yonder. Still... I'll pack my tools and some fluids just in case there's a surprise. That'll also give me a chance to check fuel economy with the 2100 and see if it can return better than the abysmal 10.6 MPG the VV was delivering on the highway. Hoping for at least 15-17 MPG around 72-74 MPH.


              My Cars:
              -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
              -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

              -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
              -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
              -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

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                You might consider replacing the visors with a later model. The newer models had a tab on the visor and a hook that attached to the roof for each visor. My visors on my 79s flopped around allot. I finally upgraded them after recovering.

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                  Originally posted by Mainemantom View Post
                  You might consider replacing the visors with a later model. The newer models had a tab on the visor and a hook that attached to the roof for each visor. My visors on my 79s flopped around allot. I finally upgraded them after recovering.
                  I'm not against that idea, just would need to find a set in a similar shade of blue. Is the area in the visor area "double walled" or anything to that extent where if I were to drill a small pilot hole to mount the latch point I'd not be shooting a bit right through the roof sheet metal? The trip over the weekend wasn't horrible with where the visors stayed, but I know the driver side arm has a little less tension on it, so it's more prone to swing towards you under certain conditions.



                  Drive to and from Salisbury was good. Fuel logs reported 17.9 MPG with mostly highway at 73 MPH and some in-town driving. Had it loaded up with 5 people a few times, couldn't really tell a difference in how it drove, yet I could usually tell a difference in the '97 and '87 with all the folks riding along. Definitely need to get the A/C work done since it's gotten a bit warm and that would keep the cabin super comfy. Otherwise, it did very well given all the preceding events.


                  My Cars:
                  -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
                  -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

                  -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
                  -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
                  -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

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