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    KW's 1979 Ford LTD Landau

    I've got a particularly bad habit of aimlessly scrolling Facebook Marketplace from time to time, just to see all the junk available for sale. I'd been mostly perusing C-Body Chryslers, but always looking for a decent Box, but I kinda had a range. Either a good example of a very early one, or a very late one. Perhaps with a few minor exterior flaws and in need of a little mechanical love, but nothing that was going to need extensive exterior/interior rehabilitation.

    So, that's how we got to this car, a 1979 LTD Landau. Door sticker shows production of 02-14-1979. The Comet was also built on Valentine's Day '64. The '87 and '97 are also February production cars. Pretty sure this is a sign at this point.

    The odometer is reporting 37,605 miles as of today. Now, is that the true mileage, or 137K? Great question. I feel like it's closer to actual reported based on how particularly nice things are for the age. It's a solid 10 footer, as the exterior does have some minor scratches about itself and a very small ding on the passenger front door. The interior is still very nice with minimal wear. The sun visors are about the worst bit right now as the passenger side one just kinda flops about. Regardless, I've seen far newer ones look so much worse. Paint and pinstripes seem to be original and would benefit from a good wash and a wax job. Lower trunk accent has the typical delamination issue. The vinyl roof has just the earliest signs of cracking setting in roughly in the middle, so I'll apply some 303 Aerospace protectant to slow any further degradation. Pillars and body seams did not have any rust bubbles or frightening issues showing. Seller told me it was kept in a carport its whole life, so that seems to track with the condition.

    Time to take this thing home! (Or at least back to my friend's place until I've got the paperwork done up next week...)















    Literally the worst part of the roof:



    Malaise Gang ft. Zane's '75 Mustang II Ghia





    So it looks decent, but how does it drive? Heh, bad. Shocks? I mean, they're present. Just definitely not doing anything. Brakes? Booster has an audible leak, definitely need to inspect the corners. Transmission? SelectClunk definitely drops into gear with some authority, much harder than the AOD. Runs through all gears smoothly at least with good kick down. Probably worth doing a good fluid/filter service and fitting an external cooler. Tires? 2010 date code 14s that are so dry rotten I did not go on a very long test drive, but did get up to about 50, but not for long. Engine? Runs rough. Has a cheap 2150 clone on it, seller unfamiliar with dialing carburetor in (might need to find a proper Motorcraft 2150). EGR valve might be slightly stuck given its behavior at idle. Pretty sure I heard a vacuum leak. Needs intake gaskets and valve cover gaskets at a minimum. Probably could use some spark plugs. Definitely needs belts.

    Sounds like a lot, but honestly I don't think it'll take much to get the engine squared away. I think there's a light lifter tap, but I've got no idea what grade oil is in it right now, but I also consider if it wasn't driven much, it might be a case of a sticky one and just needs some drive time. It's already been desmogged with the exception of the pump still being fitted and the smog pipes at the back of the engine. Someone ran true duals on it, only thing I'll probably change is putting more factory style turn downs on it instead of the bumper exit tips it has right now. Otherwise, it's a 45 year old car that definitely needs a little mechanical TLC, but nothing extreme. I think its a decently kept example that should make for a decent driver quality car once it's squared up.


    My Cars:
    -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
    -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

    -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
    -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
    -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

    #2
    What a glorious machine. Good find for sure.

    The early year interior colours are always neat to see.

    Panthers: 83 GM 2dr | 84 TC | 85 CS | 88 TC | 91 GM
    Not Panthers: 85 Ranger | Ranger trailer | 91 Acclaim | 92 Jaaag | 05 Focus
    Gone: 97 CV | 83 TC | 04 Focus | 86 GM
    | Junkyards

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      #3
      Pretty! Early Vics are plain but stately which I really like. A nice colour combo too.

      You could probably replace the cheap carb with a RockAuto reman 2150 with the hookups for an AOD, juuuust incase you ever feel like putting an AOD in it.

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      Last edited by Arquemann; 05-26-2024, 06:53 AM. Reason: I see interior pics now :D
      1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
      2005 Volvo V70 Bi-Fuel

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        #4
        Did these get a C4 or an FMX before they got the AOD?

        Looks pretty good otherwise, certainly a nice place to work from. All of the stuff wrong with it is easy fixes. Get the carb sorted and maybe re-curve the distributor to bring the advance in earlier and it'll probably run pretty good.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

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        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          #5
          Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
          Did these get a C4 or an FMX before they got the AOD?

          Looks pretty good otherwise, certainly a nice place to work from. All of the stuff wrong with it is easy fixes. Get the carb sorted and maybe re-curve the distributor to bring the advance in earlier and it'll probably run pretty good.
          It’s marketed as having the SelectShift, which I think is just the C4. Not sure if the FMX found their way into these, but I’m sure there’s some way to ID the differences between the two.

          Ordered some service parts last night, so I’ll start addressing things probably next week when I’m in town. I also ordered some ‘Duracool 12a’ refrigerant (the R-12 drop in replacement stuff that we’re not supposed to use because flammable) just to see how well it works. The compressor engages, but there’s just ambient air. I figure since it appears to have no signs of ever being messed with, the original R-12 charge has merely leaked out. I’ll try vacuuming it down and seeing if it’ll hold.


          My Cars:
          -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
          -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

          -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
          -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
          -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

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            #6
            Man your LTD is straight and clean! Nice find. Its getting very hard to find an un-modified car, let alone one in good shape.

            Nice Colony Park too btw.
            '87 Slicktop Steelside Wagon

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              #7

              Yes, the Ford C4 transmission was called the "Select-Shift" in 1967, when it was introduced with a new valve body and a conventional P-R-N-D-2-1 shift pattern. The name "SelectShift" comes from the fact that in the first C4s, putting the gear selector in D2 would force the transmission to start in second gear and then shift to third. In D1, the transmission would start in first gear and then shift to second and third as normal. The C4 remained in production until 1982, when Ford began making the C5 Select-Shift, which was essentially a C4 with a locking torque converter.Ford used the term "SelectShift" because in the first C4's, placing the gear selector in D2 forced the transmission to start in second gear and then shift to third gear. If the transmission was placed in D1, the transmission would start in first gear, then shift to second and third gear as normal.

              For '67, the C4 became the "Select-Shift" with a conventional P-R-N-D-2-1 shift pattern and a new valve body. This is the way the C4 remained until production ended in 1982. At that point, Ford began production of the C5 Select-Shift, which was little more than a C4 with locking torque converter and revised.
              What I Own: 1993 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
              What I Help Maintain: 1996 CV / 1988 CV / 1988 Tempo

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                #8
                Beautiful!

                Car looks really nice.

                Does this have an aluminum front inner bumper structure? Just curious as I came upon one last year in the yards and was surprised by it...and grabbed it.

                I really like those full width floor mats so damn retro cool. Very nice score on that car.

                The pinstriping on the trunk is a nice touch. Usually those are all faded out. Well preserved car all around. The seat belt sleeve is not even destroyed on the drivers seat.

                If you end up searching for a new to you hood ornament There are two. One for the "s' model noses and one for quad headlight header panels.

                The base of the "s" model ones are fatter up front to accommodate for the significant slope in their header panel. Cannot comment on just swapping the emblem (separate from base) onto your existing base. Unsure if that would work...you know depending on what you may find in your searches. Just something to be aware of.
                Last edited by 87gtVIC; 05-26-2024, 02:12 PM.
                ~David~

                My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                Originally posted by ootdega
                My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                Originally posted by gadget73
                my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                  #9
                  Glad this one ended up with you. Looked so well preserved on the Facebook ad, and apparently it is.

                  How about some c-pillar light pics at dusk? Haha. I just always wanted a car with those.
                  1990 Country Squire - under restoration
                  1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - daily beater

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                    #10
                    Very nice LTD. I really like the wheelcovers. That style was an option. I believe the mileage is 37,000. The first number would sit a little back from the others if it is over 100k miles. The seats look original which is amazing. Is the am/fm radio a stereo or mono ? If the orange dot on the right side of the dial isn't there, it is a mono radio. Crank windows are cool. Another cool item is the full across floor mat. A big plus is a steering wheel that is not cracked !
                    Is the gas fresh ? Bad gas could be part of the problem. The visor issue was very common with the early LTD/MGM. I don't see lighted visor mirrors, so that will be easy to redo. Do the headliner at the same time for a color match.
                    Best wishes for your purchase. At least it is in good hands.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                      Beautiful!

                      Car looks really nice.

                      Does this have an aluminum front inner bumper structure? Just curious as I came upon one last year in the yards and was surprised by it...and grabbed it.

                      I really like those full width floor mats so damn retro cool. Very nice score on that car.

                      The pinstriping on the trunk is a nice touch. Usually those are all faded out. Well preserved car all around. The seat belt sleeve is not even destroyed on the drivers seat.

                      If you end up searching for a new to you hood ornament There are two. One for the "s' model noses and one for quad headlight header panels.

                      The base of the "s" model ones are fatter up front to accommodate for the significant slope in their header panel. Cannot comment on just swapping the emblem (separate from base) onto your existing base. Unsure if that would work...you know depending on what you may find in your searches. Just something to be aware of.

                      I would need to check on the bumper, I’ve not looked. The mats are actually funny since the front one is a Mopar stamped one and the back one says Rubbermaid.

                      There is distinctly a chance I may have the wrong one ordered, but I may see if the bases interchange. There was an NOS 1980 variant available, so I got that one. The major difference I could find was the ‘79 ornaments have the crystal elements and the ‘80 ornaments are just open.

                      I do have the broken upper piece, but it’s missing one of the support sides and the lower crystal.

                      Originally posted by Tiggie View Post
                      Glad this one ended up with you. Looked so well preserved on the Facebook ad, and apparently it is.

                      How about some c-pillar light pics at dusk? Haha. I just always wanted a car with those.
                      I actually need to put new bulbs in those. I’ve found three lights not working, those and the trunk lid light. I may need to check the trunk switch since the bulb was left on the spare tire. Maybe someone had a draw issue, or just didn’t like the light.
                      Last edited by Kodachrome Wolf; 05-26-2024, 10:47 PM.


                      My Cars:
                      -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
                      -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

                      -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
                      -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
                      -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

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                        #12
                        Only bummer is the lack of passenger side mirror. Otherwise... nice find.

                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                        Originally posted by dmccaig
                        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by sly View Post
                          Only bummer is the lack of passenger side mirror. Otherwise... nice find.
                          Can always add one....
                          What I Own: 1993 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
                          What I Help Maintain: 1996 CV / 1988 CV / 1988 Tempo

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                            #14
                            Adding one to that car would be a real task...that is the proper matching type...

                            Different glass, need a metal trim that fits in the window channel to attach the proper mirror to and the proper mirror itself.

                            Would be easier but uglier to add the other newer style mirror. Cut a couple holes in the door etc...a sin.

                            I think its awesome just the way it is.

                            A sign of simpler times. Perfect the way it is.
                            ~David~

                            My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                            My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                            Originally posted by ootdega
                            My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                            Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                            But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                              #15
                              Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                              Adding one to that car would be a real task...that is the proper matching type...

                              Different glass, need a metal trim that fits in the window channel to attach the proper mirror to and the proper mirror itself.

                              Would be easier but uglier to add the other newer style mirror. Cut a couple holes in the door etc...a sin.

                              I think its awesome just the way it is.

                              A sign of simpler times. Perfect the way it is.
                              Taking a better look, you are correct. I was thinking of more mainstream mirrors.
                              What I Own: 1993 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
                              What I Help Maintain: 1996 CV / 1988 CV / 1988 Tempo

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