1993 F-150 Flare Side

[DerekTheGreat]

Runaway diesel videos are cool though.

This one is probably my favorite of all time:

[Tiggie]

Got it warmed up quick.

[gadget73]

LOL, everyone runs away and the older dude just meanders over and calmly sticks a board over the intake. Choking the air is the only way to stop that.

[DerekTheGreat]

Got it warmed up quick.

Right? As soon as that thing hit maximum RPM you can see just how much air that thing pulls. Did you notice how that engine just ate the first rag they tried to use to kill it? I wonder where that ended up.. The thing threw sparks at the end too.

LOL, everyone runs away and the older dude just meanders over and calmly sticks a board over the intake. Choking the air is the only way to stop that.

I can only imagine what that dude was thinking, "Ah fuck, why is it still running? Where'd they run off to? Goddamn kids, if you want something done right..." LoL, that's one of the best parts of the video. They're nowhere to be found until he put that board in place and even after that, they're acting as if they were shot at. To be fair though, if I didn't know that could happen, I'd have probably made impromptu pudding in my pants as well.

[DerekTheGreat]

..in other news today, I went to drive the truck early this morning and discovered the wife revised the shift pattern- "PRND21" may as well read, "PNNNNN" as that's all it's got now. Wife said it was dandy yesterday when she drove it, but smelled oil. Further investigation revealed drips leading to our driveway, a puddle where she pulled into the neighbor's driveway and then a puddle from where it sat idling this morning for a few minutes. Hopefully it's just a line that blew out and not something major. But it wouldn't surprise me, truck likes it's "new" engine and so it is probably demanding a matching transmission.

[gadget73]

if its got quick connects on the cooler lines, those are a common fail point.

[DerekTheGreat]

Nah, wasn't that simple for us. That or it has been and we've burned up all of our vouchers.

I retraced her steps and the thing was puking ATF for about half a mile. I'm surprised it made it in the driveway and then fired up the following morning with no noise. There was an actual trail leading down the side street and then our street from the truck. Once under the truck, the only source of the leak I could find was a hole in the starter ATF began to pee out of- all over the exhaust and then down to the ground. There's the smell she was getting. The bellhousing area did look a little wet, I'm guessing that with the rubber grommet in place combined with the leak rate means the pump cracked or something failed such that the bellhousing filled with ATF and that the only relief was that tiny weep hole in the starter. Does any of that make sense? Doesn't to me, but seems to be the only explanation which fits. Also means I'm not fixing it and that we'll be finding out how good this local trans shop is...

[gadget73]

There is usually a little gap down at the bottom of the trans where things can drain out, specifically to keep it from filling up to starter level. Pissing fluid at that sort of rate pretty much has to be pump, pump seal, or cracked converter though. I dont think those have a drain plug in the converter that can get loose so there aren't too many options.

[DerekTheGreat]

I believe it does have a drain plug. I watched a video where someone removed an E4OD to change the rear main seal. On his trans, once you pull that rubber grommet I mentioned out, you rotate the engine such that the plug is practically staring back at you through the hole.

Trans shop near me quoted me for at least $2,400 to rebuild the trans. Said the E4OD is a complicated unit. Really though, by today's standards? Because now I'm curious as to what they'd want to rebuild those 8 speed Chrysler transmissions or whatever. Doesn't GM have 8 speed autos now too? Anyway, I'm going to call the shop which put the engine in the truck today to see if they'll rebuild said trans, or at least find out about how much they'd want to do the job. About a month ago I saw a VERY raggedy F-250 for sale with a 351 & a five speed. Perhaps I should've bought that just to convert this truck.

I still like the E4OD. I still like the E4OD. I still like the E4OD.

[gadget73]

8 and 10. The GM 8 speed shifts like hot garbage too.


If the trans works other than the fluid puking thing, you might be able to find someone to just yank the thing and fix the leak. Not every trans repair is a full rebuild.

[sly]

If it's just a cracked pump... that's actually a pretty easy fix... once you get the trans out. Could just be the pump seal, but if you're in there... might as well replace the pump since disturbing it will probably cause the shaft seals to leak.

+1 second opinion shop needed. Show I use always says worst case price, but bring it in and they'll let me know what all it needs. I'm typically out the door for well less since I maintain my stuff with some regularity.

[DerekTheGreat]

Dad had an '04 LS V8 with a 5-speed auto. 1-2 (or was it 2-3?) was rough in stop & go traffic, shifted like that the entire time he owned the car. Was just the occasional soul-jarring shift, but I still thought it was awful for a car that (at the time) was just two years old with ~20k miles on it.

Definitely after that second opinion, should have something by the end of the day. $2,400 sounds a bit steep and there was another customer who showed up complaining about his trans job, said it was slipping. Looked to be a mid or early 2000's GM truck, so maybe a 4L60E or 4L65E, not sure, but certainly not confidence inspiring for the shop.

Come to think of it, the trans did act goofy if you went full ham on the throttle out of the hole, but really only did it when coming out of a corner. I mentioned that to the dude I talked to, he mentioned something about some internal part warping or going bad with what I described as a symptom. So it probably does need to come completely apart. I didn't drive it hard unless to verify a fix for job A, B or C as needed. Angela though? Heh, I bet that's what killed it- she had to pull out in traffic, goosed it and forced the trans into early retirement.