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    #31
    IIRC they are marked. Maybe look at other side? I may be wrong.
    03 Marauder DPB, HS, 6disk, Organizer Mods> LED's in & Out, M&Z rear control arms, Oil deflector, U-Haul Trans Pan, Blue Fuzzy Dice
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      #32
      Nope, not marked, they have TRW 238 (nothing) on both only thing in the entire net I found was this. Can't even buy complete new uppers.
      Attached Files



      1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

      1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

      1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

      1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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        #33
        The upper ball joint mounts are supposed to be closer to the rear of the control arm. Verified on my 93.

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #34
          Thanks sly!

          Does your arm have these grinds on it? Meaning, this side faces down when bolting?
          Attached Files



          1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

          1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

          1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

          1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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            #35
            Found this picture from an old thread, this helps.

            Attached Files



            1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

            1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

            1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

            1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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              #36
              Yes, friction grid down so it grips the position better as the landing surface should have the same.

              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

              Originally posted by gadget73
              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

              Originally posted by dmccaig
              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                #37
                I see you got the bars in.
                +1, the later model uppers are marked L and R, take a look at the '99 uppers I dropped off today you'll see. Interesting that those aren't marked.
                You're getting close to putting it all back together it looks like.
                Vic

                ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
                ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
                ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
                ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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                  #38
                  Now I got to push these bushings in, like WTF. No shop around here will touch it.



                  1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

                  1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

                  1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

                  1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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                    #39
                    The bushing pressing is definitely the part of this project that sucks the most. There is just no properly good place to be able to mount the arms to press them, and the cheap overseas-sourced tools that are similar to the OTC/Ford specialty tools are too weak to make it happen.

                    My first time around, I dropped the arms and bushings off at a shop (standard auto repair place) and paid $120 (as I recall) for them to push the old bushings out and new bushings in. My second time around, my friend and I fought with them in a sturdy vise with heat and an air hammer.

                    The $120 was worth it. It also makes Energy Suspension poly bushings seem more appealing because you reuse the old shells (only applicable when using 92-94 arms with shaft already installed, of course), but I've kept away from those for fear of increasing road feel too much.

                    Panthers: 83 GM 2dr | 84 TC | 85 CS | 88 TC | 91 GM
                    Not Panthers: 85 Ranger | Ranger trailer | 91 Acclaim | 92 Jaaag | 05 Focus
                    Gone: 97 CV | 83 TC | 04 Focus | 86 GM
                    | Junkyards

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                      #40
                      Thanks for the advice Kish, took your advice and found a shop $50 installed....got me in and out which is rare these days.maybe because I removed the old bushings.

                      In the process of reinstall. There is a slot. Does the retaining nut below center the control arms? Or do I shoot for dead center?

                      Attached Files



                      1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

                      1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

                      1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

                      1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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                        #41
                        Looks like there is a grid that corresponds to the underside of the shaft, with the same markings etched in it, assuming this is the proper position
                        Attached Files



                        1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

                        1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

                        1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

                        1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by sly View Post
                          Yes, friction grid down so it grips the position better as the landing surface should have the same.
                          Didn't see that, thanks. So one lines up the friction grid on the shaft to that of the mating surface, that way arms are positioned correctly. Definitely gonna observe better next tear down. At least I figured it out before install.



                          1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

                          1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

                          1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

                          1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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                            #43
                            I was able to install mine with a press, you will notice a huge difference in the handling.
                            ..

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Grand1 View Post
                              My fault for not taking pictures after taking upper control arms out, orientation is not in service manual.
                              does anyone know if I have the sides right?
                              I know you have the correct answer now but I want to definitively say that you have them backwards in your photo. In case anyone ever references it again.
                              ~David~

                              My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                              My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                              Originally posted by ootdega
                              My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                              Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                              But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                                #45
                                Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post

                                I know you have the correct answer now but I want to definitively say that you have them backwards in your photo. In case anyone ever references it again.
                                If a mod/admin would like to edit that post with a picture of the corrected info:
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                                Vic

                                ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
                                ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
                                ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
                                ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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