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    Box owners, check your body seams, save your 1/4's

    I've been having more than enough issues this year with water in the trunk of my '88 GM and '90 GM. The rear 1/4's rotted out on my '88 a long time ago, and now I know why.

    I think that everyone who owns and cares about their box body should do the following check:

    Open the trunk. Pull the rear, floor, and side liner panels. Clean any debris out of the rear 1/4's with an air hose or vacuum cleaner. Next, get some water (you may need quite a bit). Pour it down the channels along the trunk seal on both sides so that it runs down the rear of the body and over/behind the tail lenses. Inspect inside the trunk along ALL the body seams. You'll see where the factory sealant is run along the seams in the metal. Chances are, you'll find water seeping through at some point. Take some body seam sealer (available at most auto parts stores) and fill in the gaps in the seams. Make sure you get it in there good. Let the sealant set, and test again.

    Another thing to check is the rubber seals on the tail lens units. Make sure no water is coming in there, as well.

    A little time doing this test will save you a major headache in the long run if you plan to do any body repairs or restorations.

    #2
    great advice. Almost all the seam sealer lines I've checked are compromised to some extent, and there was almost ALWAYS some rust underneath the areas that weren't tight to the metal anymore.

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      #3
      The Mark VII has problems caused by excessive factory seam sealer. It had a big glob in front of one of the drains, so it held water and rotted through. Luckily panthers don't have those stupid rear window drain channels built into the body like the Mark has. Bad trunk seals are also a problem area that should be looked at.
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        #4
        the seam I had to seal was the gas filler neck housing. It sits flush up against the rear quarter with a foam gasket... or it's supposed to. Mine has a warped area along the bottom and was letting water POUR into my trunk when it would rain. I filled the seam with some black gasket sealer (permatex black I had on hand) and have not had an issue with water in my trunk since.

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          #5
          While you have the trunk mat out, and after you've cleaned the debris out of the lower quarter panel area, pour some used oil down there, and clean the the drain holes out. The oil will drop down into the panel seems, and does a hell of a job preventing rust.
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            #6
            For some odd reason, my pos 91 holds water there like a swimming pool. There's always a good 3" of water on each side just hanging out. Why? Don't know don't care.

            My 92 on the other hand, was so far gone that the spare tire jack decided to randomly fall out of there.
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              #7
              Just to add some info for the Crown Victoria's. I found they have the same issue with the body seams, just like the GM's. I urge people to check this portion of your cars. Make sure to check underneath the factory sealant. There is the possibility of rust underneath it. Remove it all and reseal with fresh sealant.

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                #8
                Originally posted by monterey1962 View Post
                Just to add some info for the Crown Victoria's. I found they have the same issue with the body seams, just like the GM's. I urge people to check this portion of your cars. Make sure to check underneath the factory sealant. There is the possibility of rust underneath it. Remove it all and reseal with fresh sealant.
                if possible pics would be great.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rick99601 View Post
                  if possible pics would be great.
                  Link to my post in my '89 CV RR's thread with pics.

                  Hope that helps.

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