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    Help! Pls. Anyone...

    Ok so yea my roof is rusty. It has gotten worse in the past two weaks though. Now it rains tru it as if there where no top on it at all. The spots arent that bad. Well not as bad as I expected. ( I had expected the hole thing rusted out but this is not the case.

    So can I take the rotted headliner off, and get some of that fiber glass puddy stuff. And stuff the holes with it after i put muradic acid on it and naval jelly after that? Will the puddy stey up there till it drys? If not might anyone know a glue that bonds to metal fairly well and quick? Will super glue? Im asking as i dont want to be on a fools eraned spending more money then i need. but i dont want my rear end rusting out. Right now i can take some kind of action and prevent that.

    Any help is appreciated.
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      #3
      No cam to take pics with sorry. Basicly though imagine the landue roof. Then imagine 8 inches apart from one another streaks of rust going across the metal under there. some ( A couple are all the way in cross skiping evrey so often. others Just spoty. all though are in a straight line. going across the car not up and down it.
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        #4
        sounds like you got the right idea.. are you saying fill rust holes? or the holes from removing the vinyl top?
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          #5
          need to fill the rust holes after doing the naradic acid and navel jelly. what i dont know is if that fiber glass puddy stuff will stay up there by its self. if not i need to know of a type of glue that will bond to metal so i can trow some pudy up there then put a pice of scrap sheet metal over it glued on. Lator on when i have a few more funds ill take the crapy landu roof off and fix it better from the other side but as of right now thats not possible.
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            #6
            it's gonna wanna go through the hole so you'd have to have access to both sides.. anytime i filled a hole i taped the bottom so the putty wouldn't go through, then i removed the tape and put some filler on the back side for strength.
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              #7
              Gotta get rid of the rust. You could weld the holes shut and grind it down even. Got a buddy with a welder?

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                #8
                If the holes are larger than nickel size youll want to weld them up, if not you could use some mar glass, or similar filler and tape the back to keep it from going through.
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                  #9
                  I was thinking that the landu roof would keep it from going tru. if it makes a mess on the other side thats fine when i get it all squared away ill sand it down. Thanks guys for the tape sujestion. If it dosent want to stay in place ill duct tape across it till it drys or well... Forever LOL
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                    #10
                    you're planning on doing this from the inside then? Might not hold so well. Usually repairs are best made from the outside if possible.
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                      #11
                      Yea from the inside. All i can do for now. Im really just wanting to prevent the bottom end of the car from rusting out untill i can do it better from the outside.
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                        #12
                        For the holes, you may have better luck putting glue or fiberglass around the edge of metal plates, to help them stick up there, as opposed to trying to make a big blob of fiberglass stick. That way you have something solid covering the actual hole, but don't need to do any welding. You would want to do the naval jelly and all that.


                        On second thought, just slather the entire face of the plate with fiberglass so that you don't have water getting in between the two pieces of metal. It would be far from permanent, but done right (relatively speaking) would easily last you a year or two.

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                          #13
                          Here is what I've seen done to seal the holes in the tops of cop cars and the like. I've used it with good success for rust repair and sealing up leaks.

                          Go get yourself a can of "great stuff" expanding foam. (or whatever brand you can get, just don't buy the latex foam stuff... it's crap) If you can get to the other side of the hole, also grab a roll of aluminum tape, or failing that a careful application of duct tape will work.

                          Clean off the worst of the rust, and expand the hole a bit so that the tube so the foam will go through it. Put the aluminum tape on the other side, with a dimple in it for the foam to expand and fill up.

                          Now fill the holes, and put a piece of tape over the hole.

                          The stuff will stick to anything, and it will absorb any moisture between it and the steel in the curing process.

                          Leaks fixed.

                          If you then chose to fix your roof, I'd stay away from the acid, and just sand the daylights out of it, before using naval jelly.


                          Let me know if I didn't explain that well.
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                            #14
                            i would use some fiberglass matt and some fiberglass filler......cut the fiberglass matt to size, mix up the fiberglass liquid, soak the matt in the fiberglass and apply......coat with more matt if needed

                            you need a kit like this

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