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    Retarded Windshield wipers

    So the tudor has developed an odd lil problem. The wipers do not always come on when the lever is clicked up. I've got an 87, so it has the wiper lever that goes 1 click for the intermittent, 2 clicks for slow, and 3 for high speed. Sometimes it will work fine in slow/fast, but not on intermittent. Other times it wont work at all, no matter where the switch is. ThatOneGirl's old 89 GM had a similar problem, so Im wondering if its a common thing. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

    Thanks Mangs
    The Admiral
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    Grab a wiper motor next time you go to the junkyard.
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      #3
      Do the wipers always park correctly when you turn them off? I was thinking it could be the switch itself.
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        #4
        yeah, they reset fine, its just the reluctance to engage half the time. Im headed to the junkyard this weekend, so I'll prolly pull a wiper motor and maybe a switch while Im there

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          #5
          Sounds like a plan, never hurts to have some spare ehh? My biggest thing with the wipers were how they'd chatter like crazy (could feel it in the pedals), but I put a new transmission on (and got one spare) so they work fine now. Did you ever use the bigger blade sizes? I know quite a few on here have.
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            #6
            oddly electrical issues with my wipers is one of the few things I've never experienced. My transmission was so bad that the blades went off the end of the window and beyond the A pillar whenever I went over about 30 for a while. Trust me, it gets very tiring driving with your gloved hand out the window serving as a blade stop. Had to replace the transmission and an arm because the spline stripped, and now they work flawlessly.
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            Originally posted by phayzer5
            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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              #7
              So I just ordered a new wiper motor from my local parts dealer. Should have it this afternoon. My question is this. How difficult is it to change these out? I have a chiltons for the 89+ panthers, but is 87 any different? Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as there is snow and sleet in the forecast for tomorrow, and I kinda need the wipers to be working.


              Thanks mangs
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                #8
                It's pretty simple. I don't remember exactly how you disconnect the wiper arms, tho. I never done it before, when I changed mine...and I didn't ask anyone about it...so it's pretty straight forward.
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                  #9
                  Easy enough. Ford motors actually have directions, but basically you want to remove the plastic thing thats right over where the motor sits. 1 nut I think, and it just clips on. Pull that up out of the way and you can get in there with a screwdriver. Once you see the clip, you'll see what I mean, but there is a tab on the top of it that you have to get a small screwdriver under to disengage it. The clip will slide off the post on the motor, and the transmission arm slides off. 3 screws and 2 electrical plugs, and out the motor comes. I had an easier time getting to the clip when the wipers were almost straight up and down. It brings the crank on the window motor closer to the top.
                  86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                  5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                  91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                  1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                  Originally posted by phayzer5
                  I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                    #10
                    glad i saw this post. car i had at SF runs onto the chrome when i have them on going down the road. so obviosly i will need a wiper motor for it.
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                      #11
                      usually its the transmission, not the motor. Pretty much as long as the wipers are running back and forth and parking, the motor is likely fine. The transmission includes the 2 spline shafts the arms sit on, the mounts for those, and the linkages with the bushings. Usually those bushings wear, or the plastic mounts that hold the spline shafts for the arms crack and allow too much movement. New trans is like $75 or something from Ford last I knew.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                        usually its the transmission, not the motor. Pretty much as long as the wipers are running back and forth and parking, the motor is likely fine. The transmission includes the 2 spline shafts the arms sit on, the mounts for those, and the linkages with the bushings. Usually those bushings wear, or the plastic mounts that hold the spline shafts for the arms crack and allow too much movement. New trans is like $75 or something from Ford last I knew.
                        does the transmission not come on the new motor. I have problems w/ it not returning and going too far over to the chrome, is that motor and transmission?? thanks

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                          #13
                          The transmission is separate from the motor. They aren't costly and easy to replace. If your having problems with the wipers chattering all over the windshield and barely clearing rain (despite having good blades) then that would be you problem. If they are just running onto the aluminum trim you can first try to adjust them. You can take the wiper arm off the transmission post and put it on so it's in the fully parked position when off like it should be. Also check for play in the transmission post and linkage while you have the arm off. Many people put the wiper arms back on to high and they hit the trim. I personally had 3 arms break on the drivers side, and I've accidentally put them back on to high. You shouldn't be able to see the wipers from drivers seat if they are parked. If they are adjusted correctly and still hit, then go for the new transmission.
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                            #14
                            Chattering and not clearing water could be the arms are worn out. The springs stretch, and they don't press on the glass properly.

                            The transmission is usually what you need to fix the wipers hitting the chrime, or going off the A pillar. 4 screws and the clip on the motor and it comes out. Not hard to do, just takes a minute or so to figure out how it lays in there once you take it out of the box. It is possible the arms aren't set on there right. Might try moving them over a spline or two to see if it fixes things. You can usually observe slop in the transmission though. Turn the wipers on with the hood open, and watch the parts move. If the bushings or anything else is bad and the parts are slopping about, thats your problem.

                            Motor is what you need if it runs really slow, won't park, or is making odd noises.
                            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                            Originally posted by phayzer5
                            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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