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    Moving/Adding ECM Pins

    How does one go about doing this properly?

    I have an entire mustang ECM connector I salvaged from a yard. What would be the best way to go about removing pins and adding to my existing ecm plug?
    ~David~

    My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
    My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

    Originally posted by ootdega
    My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

    Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
    But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

    Originally posted by gadget73
    my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.





    #2
    If its like the box panther connectors, I usually remove the cover, then dig the rubber gasket out, then use a pick the unclip the pins and they pull out. That's for the connector pins (female). For the male pins I have no idea I haven't ever tried.
    1985 LTD Crown Victoria - Currently restoring after she caught fire! CFI to SEFI to Carb swap, all custom wiring, Duraspark 2 ignition, Motorcraft 2100 Carb, slicktop, Shorty headers dumped before rear axle, 140 Speedo, 3G alt, And currently building an engine for her.

    2000 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - 165XXX, PI intake swap , 30 MPG Easy on the Highway, All options except dual exhaust. Currently looking for 2 front seats: Heated, Memory, and Light Graphite color!!

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      #3
      It sounds like you want to remove pins from the mustang eec connector with the wire intact, plug it into a location within your 60 pin connector correct? Are you adding pins to your connector for some reason? Maf conversion? If so, any maf conversion write up will cover this. My advice is get one of those cheap jewelery screwdriver kits from the dollar store. With the connector disconnected from your ecu and the salvaged connector in hand, remove the black shrouds from the connectors and next the red "grate" that holds the pins in comes out by pulling up on it. Now, you need to get a small drill bit to drill through the back of the gray connector so you end up with a location hole for the pin your adding. If I recall you don't drill all the way through. Just enough to get a straigh entry point for the pin you're installing. Have your computer with the diagram on hand at all times so you don't second guess yourself. This is exactly what I did. Only difference is I purchased my pins at napa and ran new wire. It's probably easier to do it with factory pins. 4 maf wires, 2 vss wires, 1 FPM wire (useless) and that's all if I recall correctly. It's easier on a panther than a mustang because you're working under the hood not under the dashboard. The correct maf harness can be purchased at autozone for 16 bucks btw. I run a 70mm maf sensor/ housing which bolts to a 2000 crown vic airbox and tube. Good luck . Hope this helps . If it's even what you're doing! PM me if you need. Same basic instructions as a mustang conversion, but I like this writeup because it's simple to view. http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00077.html
      87' Lincoln Town Car Stars + Stripes. Explorer GT40P, Anderson B31 Cam, Shorty Headers, FRPP 1.6 Rockers, A9L, Sn95 T5 Trans, 3:55 Limited Slip, GNX Rear Springs, LSC Turbines, 1.5 wheelspacers, Full Custom Dual 2.5/Flowmasters, 00 P71 Airtube, 19lb calibrated Maf, Summit Alum Radiator, King Cobra Clutch, Short throw Shfter, Energy Susp Trans Mount,
      Mods to come: Big Brake/Poly Front Swap, PI Front Swaybar, Addco 650 Rear Swaybar, Boxed Upper Rear Control Arms, 351/Alum Heads, FRPP Valve Covers,

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        #4
        Yes. I will be doing this because I will be going HO with mass air and retaining cruise control functions on my 87 Crown Vic.

        Will all of the existing pins on my stock connector fly all over the place once the black shroud and red grate get removed from the housing?

        Also, you find it easier yo work with the connector under the hood? Would it be easier to remove wheel well and work on it from there?

        Thanks for the link. very handy. Link reassured me that I already had the correct information written down and ready to utilize.

        I actually couldn't find anyone covers how to add pins on maf conversion write ups.....
        ~David~

        My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
        My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

        Originally posted by ootdega
        My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

        Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
        But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

        Originally posted by gadget73
        my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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          #5
          Your pins wont fly anywhere. The black shroud may protect from water, but I haven't had any problem at all without it. I could do a maf swap on the side of the road in 15 minutes with a cordless drill, small screwdriver, 10 mm socket, electrical tape. Remove vacuum to the map sensor btw. Which ecu are you going to run? A9P?
          87' Lincoln Town Car Stars + Stripes. Explorer GT40P, Anderson B31 Cam, Shorty Headers, FRPP 1.6 Rockers, A9L, Sn95 T5 Trans, 3:55 Limited Slip, GNX Rear Springs, LSC Turbines, 1.5 wheelspacers, Full Custom Dual 2.5/Flowmasters, 00 P71 Airtube, 19lb calibrated Maf, Summit Alum Radiator, King Cobra Clutch, Short throw Shfter, Energy Susp Trans Mount,
          Mods to come: Big Brake/Poly Front Swap, PI Front Swaybar, Addco 650 Rear Swaybar, Boxed Upper Rear Control Arms, 351/Alum Heads, FRPP Valve Covers,

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            #6
            Yes. I have an A9P in possession that I am intending to use.
            ~David~

            My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
            My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

            Originally posted by ootdega
            My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

            Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
            But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

            Originally posted by gadget73
            my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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              #7
              The one small mistake I did make, and I'll forewarn you is.... I ran all my wires from the eec connector properly (37,40,9,50) , but then spliced them into the maf sensor connector (A,B,C,D) backwards because of backwards view of the connector in photos. http://oldfuelinjection.com/images/maf03.gif
              If you look at that diagram it's hard to tell if they're showing you abcd from the rear view or abcd from a front view of the connector. That is what I had backwards. Just be aware of that.

              Correct Way
              A. Pin 37 or 57
              B. Pin 40 or 60
              C. Pin 9
              D. Pin 50





              Main Ground (Power Ground) from the MA meter must be spliced into pin 40 or 60 on the MA computer.
              This is a Black wire in the kit MA harness.
              Signal Ground (Mass Air Return) must be installed into pin location #9 on the MA computer.
              This is a Brown wire in the kit MA harness.
              Signal (Mass Air Signal) must be installed into pin location #50 on the MA computer.
              This is a Blue wire in the kit MA harness.
              Pin #19 is the fuel pump run monitor. It must be installed from pin #19 on the MA computer to a Pink / Black wire behind the left kick panel.
              This is a new wire that must be installed.
              87' Lincoln Town Car Stars + Stripes. Explorer GT40P, Anderson B31 Cam, Shorty Headers, FRPP 1.6 Rockers, A9L, Sn95 T5 Trans, 3:55 Limited Slip, GNX Rear Springs, LSC Turbines, 1.5 wheelspacers, Full Custom Dual 2.5/Flowmasters, 00 P71 Airtube, 19lb calibrated Maf, Summit Alum Radiator, King Cobra Clutch, Short throw Shfter, Energy Susp Trans Mount,
              Mods to come: Big Brake/Poly Front Swap, PI Front Swaybar, Addco 650 Rear Swaybar, Boxed Upper Rear Control Arms, 351/Alum Heads, FRPP Valve Covers,

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                #8
                So label your wires 37, 40, 9, 50, as you complete them so you don't mix them up. Figure out which pin on your maf sensor connector is A, B, C, D label them, and now splice accordingly.
                BTW, when you look at your connector you'll see that it makes more sense to use either 37 vs 57 (cant recall) or 40 vs 60 because of the tight layout of the connector.
                87' Lincoln Town Car Stars + Stripes. Explorer GT40P, Anderson B31 Cam, Shorty Headers, FRPP 1.6 Rockers, A9L, Sn95 T5 Trans, 3:55 Limited Slip, GNX Rear Springs, LSC Turbines, 1.5 wheelspacers, Full Custom Dual 2.5/Flowmasters, 00 P71 Airtube, 19lb calibrated Maf, Summit Alum Radiator, King Cobra Clutch, Short throw Shfter, Energy Susp Trans Mount,
                Mods to come: Big Brake/Poly Front Swap, PI Front Swaybar, Addco 650 Rear Swaybar, Boxed Upper Rear Control Arms, 351/Alum Heads, FRPP Valve Covers,

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                  #9
                  Somebody chime in about the stupid plastic pins that are covering the unused pins on the crown vic ecu harness. Everyone seems to forget about those. I've never had good luck with getting those damn things out. On my connector, they're teal/blue. And from what I gather, not seperable from the EEC connector.

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                    #10
                    "stupid plastic pins that are covering the unused pins on the crown vic ecu harness"??? I don't recall.
                    87' Lincoln Town Car Stars + Stripes. Explorer GT40P, Anderson B31 Cam, Shorty Headers, FRPP 1.6 Rockers, A9L, Sn95 T5 Trans, 3:55 Limited Slip, GNX Rear Springs, LSC Turbines, 1.5 wheelspacers, Full Custom Dual 2.5/Flowmasters, 00 P71 Airtube, 19lb calibrated Maf, Summit Alum Radiator, King Cobra Clutch, Short throw Shfter, Energy Susp Trans Mount,
                    Mods to come: Big Brake/Poly Front Swap, PI Front Swaybar, Addco 650 Rear Swaybar, Boxed Upper Rear Control Arms, 351/Alum Heads, FRPP Valve Covers,

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                      #11
                      the rubber gasket thing doesn't have the holes poked in it. I don't recall anything else blocking pins, but if there was I didn't have any special trouble with it. I probably used a drill bit and spun it by hand to punch through if there was.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #12
                        +1 just poke it

                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                        Originally posted by dmccaig
                        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                          #13
                          I must be the only one who has seen this? it must be an early SEFI thing? I ripped it out cause I got tired of breaking the retaining pins on the ecu connector. If I have any of it left laying around I'll post a picture.

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                            #14
                            I think I know what blue thing you're taking about. My car had that as well. I think I just drilled them out but I may have gotten it off somehow I don't remember
                            1985 LTD Crown Victoria - Currently restoring after she caught fire! CFI to SEFI to Carb swap, all custom wiring, Duraspark 2 ignition, Motorcraft 2100 Carb, slicktop, Shorty headers dumped before rear axle, 140 Speedo, 3G alt, And currently building an engine for her.

                            2000 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - 165XXX, PI intake swap , 30 MPG Easy on the Highway, All options except dual exhaust. Currently looking for 2 front seats: Heated, Memory, and Light Graphite color!!

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