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    On my 1989 colony park, the driver door handle from the outside, will not open the door. Feels like there's no resistance.
    It did not break on me, it was while someone else had the car; so I can't say if I felt anything when it happened first.

    What's your gut feeling?

    New door handle? I know a buddy's 1990 mustang had the handle itself break; the "tabs" if you will had twisted off. New handle did the trick.

    From the outside, I can't tell that it's broken, though.


    Alternatively, I know there's a series of rods going to the latches. Bent rod, or fragmented plastic sleeve that let the rod fall out of position?

    I won't know till I open the door. But, I can order all the likely parts, then just get 'er done in an afternoon, rather than taking the door apart and leaving it apart for a week while the part comes (or putting it back to gether, and taking it apart again).
    What can I say, I'm lazy. Rather have the 2-3 probable parts on hand and install what it is.


    Has this happened to you, and what was it?

    #2
    I've had this happen. The rod came out of the notch in the handle. It kept happening to me so I just bent the rod into a hook shape and now it won't come out unless I make it come out.

    Willing to bet that's what happened to you
    1985 LTD Crown Victoria - Currently restoring after she caught fire! CFI to SEFI to Carb swap, all custom wiring, Duraspark 2 ignition, Motorcraft 2100 Carb, slicktop, Shorty headers dumped before rear axle, 140 Speedo, 3G alt, And currently building an engine for her.

    2000 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - 165XXX, PI intake swap , 30 MPG Easy on the Highway, All options except dual exhaust. Currently looking for 2 front seats: Heated, Memory, and Light Graphite color!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by fmansfield444 View Post
      I've had this happen. The rod came out of the notch in the handle. It kept happening to me so I just bent the rod into a hook shape and now it won't come out unless I make it come out.

      Willing to bet that's what happened to you
      +1 on that.

      I had it happen on my mom's 88 MGM, since I broke it I got to fix it and that was the first work I had ever done on a panther when I was 11.
      I've seen it on a couple others since then, and have also noticed that some either have a plastic retainer or the rod actually has a hook to keep it in place. IIRC the cars that I have seen this on either did not have the retaining clip or the rod was not shaped the same at the end/did not have the same hook to it. Not sure if it is only certain model years that have the retaining clip/hooked rods though.

      the retainer:
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      Vic

      ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
      ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
      ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
      ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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        #4
        I don't think you handle is broken. Plastic retainers probably disintegrated.
        ~David~

        My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
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        But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

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        my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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          #5
          anyone have a part number on that? tried searching rockauto and came up empty handed.
          will call stealership on monday, though.

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            #6
            This is why you never try to force frozen locks. Like david said, the retainer can break. Also, you will bend the rod, causing it to fall out.

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            1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
            1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
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              #7
              Rockauto has the Dorman part, if I understand the site right, for $1.97 each or 97 cents each if you order 15+, Ford part# E6AZ5421952, Dorman part# 703237.

              Originally posted by marquisman View Post
              This is why you never try to force frozen locks. Like david said, the retainer can break. Also, you will bend the rod, causing it to fall out.
              That is exactly how I broke my mom's, it was frozen and I kept pulling.
              Vic

              ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
              ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
              ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
              ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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                #8
                awesome! thanks-- I wasn't finding it.
                It broke on someone else in above freezing weather; don't know the specifics.
                Oh! while I'm ordering from rock auto...
                on my 1990 colony park, the driver window will stick up. New motor, that really shouldn't be it. If you help it get started, it goes down and up again easily.

                I believe I've traced the problem to the fact that, when rolled halfway down so you can get a grip on it, you're able to rock the window back and forth with more play than should be normal.
                I understand that there is some sort of plastic "bushing" or sleeve that the window rides up and down on, and if this is gone, the window could be wedging itself like a bar clamp lock.
                Also not finding that part, either.
                Last edited by BerniniCaCO3; 04-14-2013, 03:40 PM.

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                  #9
                  Should be just a whole regulator assembly. Not sure on part number but if you search up window regulator in rock auto you can't miss it. You can get them with and without motors
                  1985 LTD Crown Victoria - Currently restoring after she caught fire! CFI to SEFI to Carb swap, all custom wiring, Duraspark 2 ignition, Motorcraft 2100 Carb, slicktop, Shorty headers dumped before rear axle, 140 Speedo, 3G alt, And currently building an engine for her.

                  2000 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - 165XXX, PI intake swap , 30 MPG Easy on the Highway, All options except dual exhaust. Currently looking for 2 front seats: Heated, Memory, and Light Graphite color!!

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                    #10
                    try looking up one for a Mustang. I think its the same part. Its a square thing that the guide rod passes through. The bushing pops into the the piece that actually moves the glass and its fairly easily replaced. No need to do the entire regulator.
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                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                      #11
                      Don't bother with the Dorman parts. They are brittle crap. Ford still uses these lock clips. Less than a buck each. p/n e6az-5421952-a



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