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    soldering tips?

    Any advice for someone learning to solder besides what's in this link?


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    & what is a minimum wattage I should look at when buying a soldering gun/iron? Why one or the other?
    Last edited by 1990LTD; 05-14-2010, 03:50 AM.
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    - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

    - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

    - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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      #3
      If I were you I'd buy the highest wattage soldering iron available. I once made the mistake of replacing my good iron with a cheap low wattage one and it struggled to flow solder on any wire bigger than 12 gauge. Now you may not ever be working with wires bigger than that but, a good quality soldering iron will last 20+ years and you'll be good to go with any kind of soldering job you may decide to undertake.

      just my 2 cents.

      Danny
      2002 Mercury Grand Marquis GS 4.6L V8, 1988 Mercury Grand Marquis GS 5.0L V8, 1979 Lincoln Mark V 6.6L V8, 1977 Lincoln Continental 7.5L V8, 1999 Chevrolet Suburban LT 5.7L V8

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        #4
        Yeah cheap soldering irons suck, get one with replaceable tips and a high wattage.
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          #5
          It depends what you're doing what wattage you want. I had a 40w Weller that worked very well on larger wire, but it was so hot it cooked the tips away constantly just from being plugged in. The 25 Weller I had was great but it wouldn't do over about a 14 ga wire. 100w guns do fat wire, but I find them incredibly cumbersome and I've never gotten nice clean results when splicing wires with them. Radio Shack irons aren't worth a flying shit, so don't bother with them. Their 40w iron works about as well as a decent 25w iron.
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            #6
            temp controlled weller is awesome (but kinda spensive - ~$180). If you plan on soldering small stuff and large stuff... get a cheap iron with replaceable tips (25-35 watt) for the small stuff and a gun or hot iron (big fat soldering iron) for the big stuff. I have an old 13amp hotplate controller (electric stove burner control in a box w/3-prong outlet) to control my 35W iron. I've done up to 14 gauge wire with that (anything bigger takes forever and tends to get cold joints - not a good thing). I will be getting a weller one of these days with the digital temp control because I do some wicked small stuff from time to time (trace repair and such) just because I can. I do want to get a butane torch type soldering iron or big fat iron eventually. I would like to fix up the lug I used for my sub amp... not sure if it will really last. 2 10 gauge wires into a 4 gauge lug. The 35W iron got it about half full of solder before it weenied out.

            +1 against radio snack irons. the 25W one I had never could do anything right other than 18 gauge or smaller wire joints/tinning.

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              #7
              I just want it to make more permanent connections than a butt splice when I'm doing stuff like lights, audio, will likely replace the green wire connection to my alternator with a soldered one.
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              - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

              - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

              - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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                #8
                I have a 40 watt weller it's great. But like they said it eats to tips every so often.


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                  #9
                  I actually have the soldering station from Harbor Frieght and its entirely decent. Not a Weller, but it was also $40 on sale. Needs a new tip now, but I think it takes Weller tips.
                  86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                  5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                  91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                  1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                  Originally posted by phayzer5
                  I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                    #10
                    the type of solder is imprtant too, i usually use silver bearing solder, i have used the wallyworld stuff before to ,but it majorly sucks.
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                      #11
                      bah @ lead free solder. 60/40 rosin core with toxic metals ftw.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #12
                        Getting harder to find 60/40 around here.

                        I use a Weller 25, used to have a thirty but it died long ago. The 25 works great just for general soldering, the bigger stuff (desoldering heatsinks and things from PCB's) becomes time consuming though. I like the Wellers mostly because the tip screws in instead of a straight shaft with a set screw on the side of the iron. Also easy to make new tips using a bolt from the hardware store with the head lopped off and ground into a point lol
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                          #13
                          yeah, all this RoHS crap. I really need to buy a case of the stuff. The lead free solder doesn't mix all that great with old lead solder, which is 95% of what I deal with.


                          Soldering tips are usually plated copper, not steel.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                            #14
                            Steel bolt works good in a pinch though lol
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                              #15
                              I once welded an exhaust muffler with a steel coat hanger. Still holding up like a champ! lol
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