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    Hello, Well My brother has an 85 cv that we converted to 2-barrel carb and we connected the fuel line off of a tee right to the carb. This is a trick that an old mechanic showed us. Basicly most of the fuel goes right back through the return line but it develops only enough pressure to unseat the float valve in the carb. I did not think this would work but it does. We have the high pressure pump in the tank connected right to the carb off of a tee going back to the tank. Has anyone heard of or tried this before? Think this will eventually damage something? Thanks.

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    Sounds interesting. Don't think anyone has tried it before that I know of. If it is running fine, I don't see why it couldn't run like that for years. If it truely works, I think we'll see even more people converting from CFI.
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      #3
      Makes sense to me. Especially to someone who wouldn't want to pull the tank out and have to rig up a pickup tube and all that other nonsense.
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        #4
        What size is the line coming off the T going to the carb? do you have a presure gauge so know exactly what the carb is getting?

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          #5
          Interesting principle...
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            #6
            Both supply and return are 5/16ths I believe. No we have not hooked up a gauge seeing as how we don't have one but the car has about 2500 miles on it. I would think something would have broke by now if it was going to.

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              #7
              The only problem would be of course if the return line were to clog or get pinched it would flood big time, but I don't see that happening.

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                #8
                Ideal solution would be a return style regulator. Just install that in place of the Tee fitting, and you can adjust the pressure exactly how you need it. I've heard of using fuel filters with 2 outlets and a single inlet as the tee, and it worked. Probably not ideal but as long as the fuel pressure is where you need it to be, you're good to go.
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                  Have any pics?
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                    #10
                    I'd run a small dead head style regulator before the carb and set the psi with a gauge just to be sure.

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                      #11
                      As long as you stay under 7 psi you'll be fine.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mercmarquis View Post
                        I'd run a small dead head style regulator before the carb and set the psi with a gauge just to be sure.
                        only reason I'd say return style instead of dead head, you wouldn't have possible problems with the pressure being too low. I'd be concerned about how stable the pressure would be under full demand.
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                          #13
                          With a carb fuel pressure isn't too important when refering to wot, it uses fuel from the bowl and it would take a while to run the bowl dry and when the float drops it wouldn't be alot of resistance to top the bowl back off..

                          Am I right?

                          This would make converting alot simpler...
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                            #14
                            you dont need a lot of pressure at wide open, but that bowl runs dry fast under heavy throttle. Mostly the important thing at wide open is fuel flow rate. It can be at nearly zero psi as long as its keeping the bowl full. Poor flow volume will give a balls to the wall feeling for a period of time, then all you'll get is loud backfiring through the carb when suddenly the bowl goes dry and the mixture leans way out. Very bad for the engine to be starved for fuel at wide open.
                            Last edited by gadget73; 12-11-2007, 12:06 AM.
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                            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

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                              #15
                              Would running a slightly smaller outlet on the T to the return line help increase flow to the carb? It would be less restriction, but not anymore pressure.
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