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    A/C turning off when my foot is on the petal

    So got it converted from r12 to r134a and the a/c was freezing. But today i went for a drive to get it inspected and i noticed that when i go more than quarter throttle that the a/c turns off into heat but than when i reach my desired speed it turns back on to freezing air. What could be causing this?
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    1986 Crown Victoria 302 Cold Air,Mac Shorty headers, Full Dual Exhaust with Super Forty Flows, Wagon Suspension with a Full Sound System Replacement 1/4 time 17.486 @ 77.43mph

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    Is it overcharged?

    IF the pressure is too high, the system will shut off when engine rpm goes up, to procect itself.

    When you convert r12 - r134a you should charge the system with 80% of the recommended r12 charge.

    In your car 54 ounces is the recommended r12 charge.

    SO for 134a you should charge it with 43 ounces of 134a.

    I'd be willing to bet that's your problem, fix it before you blow a line or your condenser!
    1987 LTD CROWN VICTORIA, 5.0 EFI, MAGNAFLOW DUAL EXH, RED LANDAU
    FRESH AOD, 3.27 OPEN DIFF, 57K MILES, B&M SHIFT KIT AND R134A A/C


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      #3
      You might have a vacuum leak somewere or a bad vacuum door motor.
      Scars are tatoos of the fearless

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        #4
        vacuum leak in the climate control system. Classic problem. It defaults to hot defrost in the event of a vacuum loss. Check the soup can for rot and check for a cracked line to it, or to the thermal blower lockout if you have one. You'll only have one if its ATC, it'll be in one of the heater hoses.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          #5
          I remember finding a rust hole in the vacuum can on my blue Merc pluged it started the car and watched as the can collapsed.

          Check the emergency brake release horse shoe at the base of the steering columb
          Scars are tatoos of the fearless

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            #6
            I assumed his hot air was blowing out of the vents.
            1987 LTD CROWN VICTORIA, 5.0 EFI, MAGNAFLOW DUAL EXH, RED LANDAU
            FRESH AOD, 3.27 OPEN DIFF, 57K MILES, B&M SHIFT KIT AND R134A A/C


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              #7
              I should also mention there is a wide open cutout relay, so if you're jamming the pedal to the floor, the AC will shut off, but that only happens over like 7/8 throttle or something. The vacuum temperature mess only happens on cars with auto climate control. Manual climate control doesn't have that problem. It will only shift where it comes from.
              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

              Originally posted by phayzer5
              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                #8
                Pay attention during acceleration, or rev the motor in park....see if you can hear the A/C compressor clutch Engaging and Dis-engaging.

                If it's "short cycling" it's probably a pressure issue (high or low charge).
                1987 LTD CROWN VICTORIA, 5.0 EFI, MAGNAFLOW DUAL EXH, RED LANDAU
                FRESH AOD, 3.27 OPEN DIFF, 57K MILES, B&M SHIFT KIT AND R134A A/C


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                  #9
                  yeah mine does the same. when going up hill etc I'm just used to it

                  1989 mercury grand marquis gs / 2014 ford focus s daily driver
                  302 lopo with ho upper/ aod with trans go shift kit
                  k code 3:55 posi rear/big brake swap tow package car

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                    #10
                    mine used to do that. Soup can was bad and it leaked at the TBL. $26 at the dealer for a new one, and I removed the TBL and it stopped changing on hills, etc. My interior temperature sensor also went bad so the temperature was unstable, replaced that as well. I actually have stable temperature control now. Its actually pretty impressive how well it actually does work with new parts given how rinky dinky the whole system is. The more modern electronic controls are a lot more accurate, but they have electronic blend door problems and all sorts of other issues. After 20 years having to invest $75 an an hour or so of time to repair it seems reasonable.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                      #11
                      well the soup can is fine and i dont know how to check the other lines and arent sure which ones are vaccum
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                      1986 Crown Victoria 302 Cold Air,Mac Shorty headers, Full Dual Exhaust with Super Forty Flows, Wagon Suspension with a Full Sound System Replacement 1/4 time 17.486 @ 77.43mph

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                        #12
                        theres a vacuum routing diagram under the hood

                        1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                        2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                        1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                        1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
                        2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
                        1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                        please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                          #13
                          I had this EXACT same problem. After pressure testing the can, and checking the whole under-dash system, it turned out to be the A/C vacuum control valve (located behind the engine, running off of the vacuum block mounted on the firewall). I actually bought a brand new control valve from my local dealer, but after installing it, still had the same problem. To make a long story short, it turns out the "new" control valve was defective. A second, new valve fixed the problem. All it is, is an F-shaped vacuum fitting with a check-ball inside. If you need the part number it's #D9AZ-19A563-AA. Ford's price was $7.60. Hope this helps ya!
                          BTW, if you happen to want a new vacuum can, the part # is E1VY-19A566-A for cars with Climate Control (I ended up buying one of these too, just for insurance). The list price for the can is $30.98. Got mine for $25.
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                            #14
                            You shouldn't be stepping on petals; they're kind of delicate. You should dry them between the pages of a book and save them for posterity.
                            2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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