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    #91
    it doesn't matter, it spins with the distributor.
    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Originally posted by phayzer5
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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      #92
      Alright, slow crank problem has returned. I did everything I was recommended to do and everything I thought of. I think I’m gonna send it to someone who knows more about this than me. Thank you all for the help and advice.

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        #93
        Originally posted by monotonorobo View Post
        Alright, slow crank problem has returned. I did everything I was recommended to do and everything I thought of. I think I’m gonna send it to someone who knows more about this than me. Thank you all for the help and advice.
        Sometimes, outside assistance is required although we aren't thrilled about it!
        What I Own: 1993 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
        What I Help Maintain: 1996 CV / 1988 CV / 1988 Tempo

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          #94
          Yeah. I’m gonna try a few more things before I send it off. I’’be also heard that some people run an extra engine ground.

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            #95
            Originally posted by monotonorobo View Post
            Yeah. I’m gonna try a few more things before I send it off. I’’be also heard that some people run an extra engine ground.
            Extra grounds, if done properly, never hurt. Exhaust all possibilities, yourself, then you'll feel better if you need to farm out the work.
            What I Own: 1993 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
            What I Help Maintain: 1996 CV / 1988 CV / 1988 Tempo

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              #96
              measure the voltage drop across the cables, that will tell you a lot more. The stock ground, if in good condition, is all it needs. The question is whether its any good or not. Voltmeter from battery - to engine block while cranking will tell you. Same from battery + to the terminal on the starter relay where that short cable goes, and if you want the full picture, the other side of the relay down to the starter itself will ring out the entire power feed system for the cranking circuit. Can also measure across the relay when cranking.

              The more voltage drop, the higher the resistance. Should be not more than about 0.2 volts if things are in good shape.
              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

              Originally posted by phayzer5
              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                #97
                Then I’ll check it tomorrow.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                  measure the voltage drop across the cables, that will tell you a lot more. The stock ground, if in good condition, is all it needs. The question is whether its any good or not. Voltmeter from battery - to engine block while cranking will tell you. Same from battery + to the terminal on the starter relay where that short cable goes, and if you want the full picture, the other side of the relay down to the starter itself will ring out the entire power feed system for the cranking circuit. Can also measure across the relay when cranking.

                  The more voltage drop, the higher the resistance. Should be not more than about 0.2 volts if things are in good shape.
                  Thanks, forgot to come back and say I found one of my main issues! The new distributor that I bought was fried when I bought it. Put the old one back in, set timing to 10* BTDC and got it running a few times. Thing I’m dealing with now is it won’t stay on. Thoughts on what it could be? I’m guessing EGR since I did get a code for it before.

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                    #99
                    if the EGR is stuck wide open maybe. Unplug the vac line to it and see if that does anything for you. Any serious vacuum leak, especially on the line to the MAP sensor may also cause you issues.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                      Yeah I’ve already dealt with a MAP sensor problem and had better idle since. It may have come loose but I’ll check the EGR along with the MAP sensor.

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                        Unplugged EGR and checked map sensor no changes.

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                          Could code 23 (Throttle Position Sensor out of self test range) be my issue?

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                            yes. If the TPS is bad in the wrong way, the ECM can think its in flood mode and not give it any fuel.
                            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                            Originally posted by phayzer5
                            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                              So I’ll get a new TPS then. Anything I need to know before replacing it?
                              Edit: already replaced it. It started and ran for about 10 seconds then died again. It seems that when I leave it to sit for a few hours then come back it starts. Could it be out of position so much to the point where it doesn’t run at all?
                              Last edited by monotonorobo; 11-16-2023, 04:59 PM.

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                                they aren't really adjustable to any real degree but you can check it with a voltmeter.

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                                it should be somewhere between 0.8 and 1.2 volts, normally its pretty darn close to 1 volt though. Or just code scan it. If its not setting an out of range code anymore its fine. If you didn't get the tang on the top of the throtle blade engaged with the two tits inside the TPS it won't work correctly.

                                will it stay running if you give it some throttle?
                                86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                                91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                                1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                                Originally posted by phayzer5
                                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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