Frankenstein T-5 Waggin' Chronicle (vast doesnt do it)

[Freshmeat]

PM replied. I'll get to the store ASAP and situate the shipping.

The valve covers come in Thursday. I'm anxious to have this bad boy running, again. Still need to find a shifter knob...
It looks like I'll have my old wheels/tires back... my dad's talking about selling his car and if he does, he wants the turbines back on it 'cause they look better. I'm not looking forward to swapping the fender liner, but it'll be so nice once it's done. I'll try to borrow a camera so I can have LOTS of pictures available.

[gadget73]

The wagon bar is 1/16" larger than the police bar. They are also a fair bit lighter and muchg easier to find.

[mercenvy]

Thats holds true even if the bars are the same size.I have both the front and rear PI sway bars on my Vic right now.The front PI and the wagon bars are allmost the same outside diameter,but the wagon bar being hollow and having a relativly thick wall thickness,makes it the stronger of the two sway bars.

No, it does not. If you read the link that YOU posted, it says that if both bars are the same diameter, then the soild bar is stronger. If the hollow bar is bigger, then the hollow bar is stronger. Either way reducing unsprung weight is always good. My Mark VIII has hollow swaybars, one thing that sucks about the hollow bars is they are known to rust out, resulting in a broken bar.
BTW you might want to beef up that PI noodle in the rear with an HPP 21mm bar....

[Freshmeat]

I don't know to what "noodle" you are referring, but the rear bar I have is THICK. It's probably twice the size of all the '92+ rear bars I was seeing.
Gonna get a little sleep and then start in on it tonight. Both sway bars and the fender liner (gonna try to score some Mother's or Turtle Wax products to shine it up while I'm in there). I'll most likely strip that whole wiring harness and run new looms while I'm at it.

[mercenvy]

I don't know to what "noodle" you are referring, but the rear bar I have is THICK. It's probably twice the size of all the '92+ rear bars I was seeing.
Gonna get a little sleep and then start in on it tonight. Both sway bars and the fender liner (gonna try to score some Mother's or Turtle Wax products to shine it up while I'm in there). I'll most likely strip that whole wiring harness and run new looms while I'm at it.

Freshmeat I wasn't referring to you, but to Custom 87. He said he had PI bars front AND rear. My HPP rear bar is the biggest made for 92+ and is way bigger than the wimpy PI rear bar.
Would that hollow bar fit my 93?

[p71towny]

The rear bar off of 92+ panthers mounts different than the boxes. I suppose you could make it work but you would have to do some welding. And yes that bar would fit your 93. You have the holes in the control arm already.

[Freshmeat]

Fawking rain...

I'm gonna pull the bars out and see if I can scrub 'em back to the shiny black. If not, I'm gonn paint 'em.

[LTDMan83]

Hey,good luck mang.With the PI rear bar out back,and the poly bushings up front,your gonna notice a big difference with the wagon's handling.

[Freshmeat]

That's what I'm hoping. I dropped speed a LOT for curves for the past five years, fearing a sideways rollover. Yes- it's that bad. I'll keep you all posted on the progress (obviously).

[Freshmeat]

I've also been researching a 3550 swap for when this T5 calls it a day. A local transmission builder offered me one on a brand new, hardened-gear rebuild for $1k which isn't a bad deal, but I don't have the money right now.

[Freshmeat]

Be glad I can't modify posts. Take it to the battlefield.

I misprinted my last post. I'm researching a 3550 swap, but the local transmission builder has a T45 with hardened gears for $1k- not a 3550.

The valve covers came in yesterday; they look way too tall to fit, but I'm gonna hope I'm wrong.

[interceptor1985]

HEY IF THE VALVE COVERS ARE TOO TALL THEN THAT WOULD JUST GIVE YOU THE EXCUSE TO GET A EDELBROCK VICTOR JR UPPER AND LOWER INTAKE MANIFOLDS ............your car is EFI right? OK I'm a dumm ass why would you have a mass sensor on a carbed car DUH lol i just read back a way's

[Freshmeat]

I'm not wasting my money on aftermarket intakes. The stock Exploder units are great and TMoss can make 'em even better.

[Blaze86Vic]

All i was trying to get across is,the fact that hollow sway bars are better than solid bars of the same size.

This is not true. The 1-3/16" hollow anti-sway bars are stronger than the 1-1/8" solid anti-sway bars. Given two bars of the same outside diameter the solid one will be stronger.

Hollow sway bars are stronger per/lb of weight than solids. So in most cases a larger hollow bar will be stronger and lighter than a smaller solid bar.

[mercenvy]

First of all-this is a tech forum. The poster in question was posting bad tech IMHO. Thank you Blaze, you understand what I am trying to say.
I don't like personal attacks because I am seeing a discrepancy and pointing it out to others in the forum so they don't go around telling their friends that they read on GMN that hollow bars are stronger than solid ones and make the site look like a bunch of rookies.
FRESHMEAT- I apologize for this crap. I just wanted to say my piece, and then be done with it. But since you seemed pissed I will take it to the battlefield. This thread rocks and I love what you're doing.
Sorry for the BS.

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