I know it’s on here some where but can’t find it. After getting my new (to me) rear swaybar which does make a difference, the front seams like it need more help. Which front swaybar do I need the wagon or the pi one. I think I seen the wagon ones were better but not sure. And which years do I look for or do anyone of y’all have one for sale. Thanks in advance
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Either will do, the wagon has a larger diameter but is hollow, where as the police is slightly less and solid. 79-91 box's will work, the challenge will be finding either one of them.-Phil
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Wagon one is preferred to the police one because it's lighter, but other than that... What he said^^
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... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
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You can also go after market. Addco makes one for the 92 and up cars I believe but is designed to utilize the same end links as the boxes do. Its BIG bucks and is a smidge too wide so it rubs tires on full lock.~David~
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my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.
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The wagon part is also more available, so it has that going for it over the PI part.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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just to be clear that mean both vic wagon and mgm wagons sway from 79 threw 91 are betterComment
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Yes, but if you want to be certain they should measure 1 3/16" in diameter-Phil
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SO u are saying that some wagons have small swaybarOriginally posted by Brown_Muscle View PostComment
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No, I just simply don't know, and it always helps to check-Phil
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I have an addco on the car and no rubbing problems with it if that helps. Have pretty big tires on it too. Yeah, good luck finding the other ones. Wagon will definitely be more common. Kicking myself for not grabbing one when I had the chance at a local yard.
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Is there any particular reason you can't use the '92-'02 sway bars? We know they fit when doing the big brake swap, and we know they work with box style end links on a aero/whale since they retained the mounting holes in the lower control arms. There are at least a few '92-'02 owners out there using box end links with the stock front bars. Just a curiosity question. If they work then that would greatly expand the sway bar options for the box platform since '92-'02 cars are more common and have solid sway bars ranging from 25mm-29.5mm depending on application. I currently have a '98-'02 P71 (29.5mm) front bar and no rear bar on my '97 Town Car after the rear bar mounts rotted off the frame, it still handles better than it did with the stock 26mm front and 17mm rear.-Steve
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Okay last question if I do find a wagon swaybar and then do the big brake conversion will I still be able to use the wagon swaybar. Or will I need the donor car swaybar.Comment
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The newer cars use a different style sway bar end link. It mounts to the top of the spindle near the ball joint. However:
The lower control arm mounting hole for the box-style sway bar end link is still present on newer control arms, so even if you replace the lower control arms entirely, if they still have the holes for the old style end links, you will be able to use the old style end links.
Edit, Whoops. BigMerc96 already said this above.Comment
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I don’t get what bigmerc was saying. So the 98-02 swaybar would be even better than the wagon oneComment
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Maybe, maybe not. I honestly don't know. I know it would probably be easier to find, however. I'm not even sure it would fit a box body, that was why I asked here, hoping someone may know.Originally posted by Elias View Post-Steve
2006 Audi A6 S-Line FWD ~132k miles, stock.
1998 Mercury Grand Marquis LS HPP ~102k miles, slowly acquiring modifications.
1997 Lincoln Town Car Cartier ~145k miles, Ported Plenum, Gutted Airbox, Mechanical Fan Delete, Contour E-fan Retrofit, Dual exhaust, Cats ran away, KYB Gas-A-Justs, P71 front sway bar, air ride reinstalled, Blinker Mod, Projector headlight retrofit, Caddy 4-note horn retrofit, Wood rim steering wheel, rustbelt diet plan..
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