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    #1

    Big brakes on 15" turbines

    I'm jumping in!

    the colony park needs big brakes!

    i test fit my spare on jaywish's wagon and it almost fits.

    going to be taking a small amount of material from each caliper....calipers are ordered from ebay (got a pr for 47 shipped)

    now i just need the rest of the goodies......anyone have donations for research? lol

    1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
    2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
    1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
    1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
    2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
    1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

    please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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    #2
    That's a question I'm interested in to for my 85 Country Squire and keep the 15 inch turbines. So far from what i have read is that you can use the the 94 to 97 which has a bigger rotor but the older style single piston caliper. I have not done the swap so it may be best for other to chime in.

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      #3
      It's been done before if you grind down the calipers a fair amount, but I really don't like doing that. Besides for the fact 16's offer better handling, more tire choices, etc...
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        #4
        Rotor Diameter
        1989= 11.09"
        1996= 11.45"
        1999= 12.42"

        quite a bit more area 1998 and up.
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          #5
          i can't afford 16" wheels and new tires right now, the tires on the turbines have excellent tread.
          i have time and a grinder, i can always replace the calipers when i find 16" hpp's

          1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
          2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
          1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
          1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
          2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
          1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

          please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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            #6
            Not that it would help in your instance, but I wonder if small spacers would be enough to clear the caliper without shredding the tire on the fender

            RIP Jason P Harril, we'll miss ya bro

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              #7
              So how big of a rotor can you get in there with the factory 15 inch turbines?? Can you go to the 12.42 or just the 11.45??

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                #8
                You have to shave the calipers on the 12.42 brakes.

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                  #9
                  When did you get a colony park?
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                  But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.



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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                    When did you get a colony park?
                    saturday morning......traded my mk7 for it

                    1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                    2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                    1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                    1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
                    2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
                    1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                    please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                      #11
                      Good deal. We need pics Scott! What shape is she in?
                      ~David~

                      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                      Originally posted by ootdega
                      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.



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                        #12
                        Anyone have any pics of a caliper that's been modified to fit 15" wheels?

                        Not sure I would like grinding on calipers. Kinda kills the warranty too.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by phayzer5 View Post
                          Not that it would help in your instance, but I wonder if small spacers would be enough to clear the caliper without shredding the tire on the fender
                          I've been wondering this too. My draglites kind of have a better curve to the inside for this than steelies, too...

                          I'm easily an inch and a half farther towards the fender than stock on the outer lip and can't find any evidence of rubbing there. If you did that with stock wheels, god help your balljoints but maybe it'd clear. I probably would/will try hi-performance pads and slotted/drilled rotors first though. These things have way more brake power than tire, so you're really worried about fade more than initial bite.

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                            #14
                            I was going to run 15x4.5" skinnies on my coupe, and with the advertised backspacing (can't remember what it was), I figured they would clear the brakes. Certainly with an adapter (insanity on a 4.5" wheel). I would take some measurements and see what that turns up.

                            Otherwise, do you know anyone with a machine shop that could mill the calipers down? Not that the heat is a huge concern, but milling may be cleaner and preserve the material characteristics, and arguably integrity better. Depending on how much material we're talking about removing, of course.
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                              #15
                              Someone with a bandsaw should hack a caliper in half along the axes to see how much material there is to take off

                              RIP Jason P Harril, we'll miss ya bro

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