When I was doing rear brakes I found that I could move the axle up and down and to the side slightly. I assume the outer bearing and/or axle is going back. No noise up to this point. How hard a job is this to do? I can try to find some decent axles at the junkyard. Do I just pull the axle, use a slide hammer/bearing puller to get the old bearing out and gently tap the new one in and new seal? In rockauto there are two bearings, axle bearing, and diff bearing, I assume I need the first? Thanks!
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should have about 1/4" side to side movement in an 8.8 rear on a box. The up and down though... no no no.
as for the method... you're pretty much spot on. To pull the axle, you'll have to remove the C-clip in the pumpkin (you didn't list that part, so I figured for anyone searching, I should include that info). Definitely want to have an axle on hand just in case yours is toast. And yes, rear wheel/axle bearing.
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Hi Slymer
Think you will find the official amount of rear axle end float is .030"Originally posted by slymer View Post
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then ALL of my cars are way the hell out since they're at least 1/8 to 1/4 inch in and out movement on both sides, as was the 93 F150 I had for a while and the entire axle on the 88 and Mark have been rebuilt (new bearings all around and one new shaft on the Mark).Originally posted by Dereck View Post
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Hi Slymer
Yep mine too
Never seen one with much less than 1/8 inch but Ford do say the maximum allowable end float is 30 thou and I am also not really sure how you should go about adjusting it, I suppose a shim or two under the C clip would do it.
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meh... no signs that it's an issue. not gonna touch it.
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Thats straight in-out movement though, not up/down like Phil is describing.
I think I'd at least pop and axle out to see what sort of shape its in. If there are problems with the axle or bearing, a visual inspection should tell the tale. Only hitch is what rear does it have? I *think* the 82 used an 8.5 rear, which should use the same axles as the 8.8. If its something else, then iunno.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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Sounds like the bearings might have seen better dayz if there is up and down movement. You will need a good slide hammer to pop the bearings out. You will also need a bearing/seal driver kit and rtv as well to get them back in. The tools aren't too bad (money-wise), it's the time and mess of taking the rear apart that's hard. I bought a cheap slide hammer and killed it in two whacks when rebuilding the rear for the CV. Lesson learned. Perhaps you can salvage a rear from a '90--'91 CV/MGM and rebuild it. Then install everything in one shot. SInce this is your project car, you can get some decent gearing (4.10).
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As far as I was aware i have the 8.8, how would I go about telling? It appears identical to any other panther rear I've seen. I wasn't aware that any up and down "float" play was tolerable...sketchy by modern standards. I'll pull the axles, if I don't have to rebuild the whole rear I won't. Ideally I'm trying to keep this as original as possible, I enjoy being able to say it's the original drive train.-Phil
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Pete- thanks for the write up!-Phil
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If you still have the axle tag on the diff cover it will tell you. It will normally say 8.8 or whatever UNDER the ratioOriginally posted by Brown_Muscle View PostComment
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Hi Brown_Muscle
It isn't, end float is "in and out" play.Originally posted by Brown_Muscle View Post
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The 8.5 and the 8.8 are effectively identical. The R&P is smaller on the 8.5 (obviously) but the carrier is actually the same. As far as I'm aware, you can stick 8.8 R&P into an 8.5 housing without problems. I don't know if 8.5 and 8.8 were the only two used. Possible that some of the earliest ones had a 7.5. Those I don't really know anything about. Its possible the axles are the same on those too.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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