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    Mark VI Coupe has HD Frame like Police Interceptor?

    Found something interesting during my motor swap, HD stamped on the frame underneath the DS Motor Mount.

    Since this car has the same frame and wheelbase as the Crown Vic Police Interceptor, is it possible that this car has the CVPI Heavy Duty Frame as well?

    If so, or if not, how exactly would I verify this to be sure?

    CVPI owners please chime in.
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    Its not a tow package car is it? Those also supposedly got HD frames. My car has one, but its a tow package car.
    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Originally posted by phayzer5
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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      #3
      Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
      Its not a tow package car is it? Those also supposedly got HD frames. My car has one, but its a tow package car.

      my town car isnt a tow package car but i have the HD printed on my frame too. is it a lincoln thing only

      1982 Lincoln Continental Mark VI Bill Blass Designer Series 2-Door(Larisa)      -Mods: HO Roller 302, GT40P Heads, Explorer Intakes, HO ECM(D9S), Autodimming w/compass and outside temp rearview mirror, Daniel Stern Lighting Mod, Dual Exhaust, 90's GM C/K Series Retractable Hood Light, Red Digital Dash Display, 92-94 White Leather Town Car Signature Cupholder Armrests, HPP Wheels, Police PS Cooler, Police Trans Cooler. More to come!!!!
      1998 Ford Explorer Limited 5.0 AWD(Fiona)-Mods: Lincoln Navigator THX Audio System, Ford Explorer Sport Instrument Cluster.

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        #4
        IIRC, Town Car/Mark VI sedans and coupes all had the 117.3" wheelbase.
        '79 Continental Town Car
        '90 Crown Victoria LTD
        '94 Crown Victoria

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          #5
          Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
          Its not a tow package car is it? Those also supposedly got HD frames. My car has one, but its a tow package car.
          No trailer brake light wiring pigtail inside the trunk anywhere, and it has 10in Drums w/ 2.73 gears. So, no I don't believe so. Maybe all Lincolns got HD frames??? Never had the motor mounts off of one before this to check for sure.



          Originally posted by 79lincolnlover View Post
          IIRC, Town Car/Mark VI sedans and coupes all had the 117.3" wheelbase.

          Nope, the MKVI Coupe got the 114in wheelbase like the LTD/Marquis, the MKVI Sedan had the 117in wheelbase like the rest of the Lincoln lineup.
          Last edited by LTDMan83; 12-09-2011, 07:37 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by LTDMan83 View Post
            No trailer brake light wiring pigtail inside the trunk anywhere, and it has 10in Drums w/ 2.73 gears. So, no I don't believe so. Maybe all Lincolns got HD frames??? Never had the motor mounts off of one before this to check for sure.

            it could be a possibility that all lincoln town car/mark vi got HD frames. lincoln is top of the line brand than ford or merc so i can see them putting the nicer stuff on the top of the line brand standard

            1982 Lincoln Continental Mark VI Bill Blass Designer Series 2-Door(Larisa)            -Mods: HO Roller 302, GT40P Heads, Explorer Intakes, HO ECM(D9S), Autodimming w/compass and outside temp rearview mirror, Daniel Stern Lighting Mod, Dual Exhaust, 90's GM C/K Series Retractable Hood Light, Red Digital Dash Display, 92-94 White Leather Town Car Signature Cupholder Armrests, HPP Wheels, Police PS Cooler, Police Trans Cooler. More to come!!!!
            1998 Ford Explorer Limited 5.0 AWD(Fiona)-Mods: Lincoln Navigator THX Audio System, Ford Explorer Sport Instrument Cluster.

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              #7
              my lincoln is not a tow pack car either. i allso got 2.73 rear but, with 11" drums.

              1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
              1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
              1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
              2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
              2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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                #8
                Someone once told me that the panther wagon used the same frame as the f-150.Any truth to that?



                87 Ford LTD Crown Victoria Country Squire Station Wagon. 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, Boxed LCA's, Explorer Intake, 65mm T-body, 'Stang Cam, 'Stang Air tube, K&N, GT-40X Heads, 1" Spacer, 1 5/8 BBK's, 2.5" Pypes X-pipe w/high flow cats, Single Chamber Thunderbolts, B&M 'vertor, Po-lice Swaybars.

                91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.

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                  #9
                  I do not believe so.





                  thats an 87 truck frame
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                  - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

                  - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

                  - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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                    #10
                    no, the wagon frame is pretty much the same as the sedan one. it may actually be identical, not totally sure. The panther frames are decidedly wider than truck frames are, though the C channels on the truck frames are taller. Ours are true perimeter frames, with the rails just under the door sills. Trucks have the frame inset close to a foot from the sills.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                      #11
                      the only difference with a wagon frame (again... if there is any) would be behind the rear doors and probably behind the rear wheels more likely. I think the only thing actually different is that the rear bumper supports are longer on a wagon (hence the need for a different hitch from a sedan).

                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                      rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                      Originally posted by dmccaig
                      Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                        #12
                        Very Cool that my car has an HD frame. The car feels much more solid, than the past LTD/Marquis' that I have owned. I can't wait to drive/ride in this beauty.

                        Slightly off topic, but I had to show this. After taking apart the original 351w engine today, I found out why she knocked like a mofo, and caused the original owner to junk the car. Just what I thought it would be....Burnt up Rod Bearing on #7, paper thin. Ouch!
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                          #13
                          holy shit! nice bearing....ah, id re use it lol

                          1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
                          1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
                          1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
                          2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
                          2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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                            #14
                            I've taken apart a few "blown up" hunks of iron in my time, and that is the worst bearing I've ever seen.

                            The PO must have driven it for quite awhile after it started knocking, lol.

                            On the plus side the D9 block is still in really nice shape.

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                              #15
                              nice. A friend of mine had a 71 Mustang with a whooped 302 in it. He replaced the oil pump and went fishing in the pan while it was off. He found a bearing like the one in the picture laying in the pan. Never investigated to find out where it came from, but my guess is thats why it made no oil pressure. He put it back together and ran it a couple more years before selling it. The motor sounded horrible, but it ran.
                              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                              Originally posted by phayzer5
                              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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