I have seen 2.5 tons break in mud trucks. Not really that hard to do. But most people with rockwells run ag tires and 500+ hp. Im adding the measurements of my current fender heights, top of the wheelwell so I can calculate the lift later. Front currently sits at 32" and the rear at 30 and 7/8". Ive about got the tranny and t case out of my bronco. Pics when I get it out.
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1989 Grand Marquis LS
flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mph -
Most rigs are built to dig through the mud so they can grip at the bottom of the hole. If it's not built to do that then it's not built right.2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.Comment
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Originally posted by Southern_Pride View Post
Thing is the truck frame is heavier and much more sturdy- and it's designed for the mounting points of the truck suspension. A panther frame is is about as sturdy as jello behind the rear control arm mounting points and spring perches. And it ain't to study forward of that either.Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
Busy maintaining a fleet of FordsComment
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Im adding 4 crossmembers to the frame. It should be stiff enough when done. I disagree with the truck frame being heavier. My bronco frame is about as stiff as a soft pretzel. Its bent and twists all the time.1989 Grand Marquis LS
flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mphComment
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most trucks will flex several inches between the cab and bed. id imagine that a CV would be stiffer since the body adds some rigidity. just dont open the doors with it twistedhttp://secondhandracing.com/Home.aspx
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You can open them, just don't expect to be able to close it when you're flexed out on a climb.
Being boxed as it is, the Panther frame is really sturdy compared to a lot of the frames out there. People wheel on stock CJ frames all the time, despite that they're rusted to about paper thin.2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.Comment
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i have seen this first handOriginally posted by Freshmeat View PostYou can open them, just don't expect to be able to close it when you're flexed out on a climb.
Being boxed as it is, the Panther frame is really sturdy compared to a lot of the frames out there. People wheel on stock CJ frames all the time, despite that they're rusted to about paper thin.
1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
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1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
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Just buy one of these
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Originally posted by MeanVic84Comment
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Originally posted by Southern_Pride View Post
It's twice the size and thicker....So, yeah I think it's heavier duty and stronger.
I don't see how a crossmember will help the weak point I'm thinking of.Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
Busy maintaining a fleet of FordsComment
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A half ton frame isnt any thicker. Taller yes but not thicker. And the car frame is boxed. I could 4 link it in the rear. I got the lower control arms built already.1989 Grand Marquis LS
flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mphComment
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I saw one of those with a fuel injected AMC 401Originally posted by Grandmarchris View PostJust buy one of these
it bloody rocked!
wait isnt that just a lifted AWD Concord with a different name?Comment
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Don't forget about the steering, all that stuff wont fit once its lifted.....just like a truckOriginally posted by Southern_Pride View Post
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Project cancelled for the time being. Too much stuff I didnt think about and after much measuring shit isnt gonna fit correctly. Not with out tons of modication I cant do at the moment. Back to my jack up it higher as a 2wd pipe dream for now.1989 Grand Marquis LS
flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mphComment
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Yeah it's an AMC Eagle. Concords were 2wd and Eagles were 4wd.Originally posted by capridrifter View PostI saw one of those with a fuel injected AMC 401 it bloody rocked!
wait isnt that just a lifted AWD Concord with a different name?1998 Mercury Grand Marquis 131k~ true duals, 2nd cat removed, H-pipe, Xcelerator Turbo mufflers, PI Manifold, 180* Tstat, K&N drop-in.
1985 VW Vanagon 70k~Comment
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s_p, the 4link will be simple to do, and i would actually recommend a d44 from an isuzu rodeo, 98 or later. why? well the obvious first: its a d44. second, you get disc brakes (standard on the isuzu). only downfall....you need to convert the front to 6 lug.
go for the project mang, build it piece at a time.Comment
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