Cam suggestions???

[Mr. Land Yacht]

I'd like to get as close to 400 hp as I can...
and it's sounds like a carb is the best way.
I like Carbs, too...more fun than EFI...LOL.
what will I need to convert to carbed?
Carb, intake, lokar throttle cable, throttle bracket, disty, TV cable...anything else?

[turbo2256b]

We can mod your tank pick up. Some 3/8 aluminum fuel line, an electric fuel pump. Hell come on by again will go through all of it and which parts. Got a lot of catalogs here.

[Mr. Land Yacht]

maybe we should just port the upper intake a little , convert to MAF and stop there...
all this stuff for the carb would cost me over 700 bucks...I'd be happy ifI had over 320hp.

[turbo2256b]

Most of the stuff can be found at swap meets. Cheeper than Ebay picked up two intakes for my boat for the price of one.

[Mercracer]

An intake is only $50-75 used. A carb is only $50-75 used. Even with shipping, you should be able to find both for $200.
Fuel line is almost free, and a mechanical pump is cheap. Distributor is only $50 reman and you can get a wiring harness with a good used blue box for cheap from a bone yard.
You can use a used Mustang TV cable/lever and a 5.8 CV intake bracket if you do not want to pay for the Lokar cable.

[Mercmarquis]

:stupid:

carb swaps can be done very cheap, I got my carb off ebay only used twice, traded some turbines for an intake and distributor, got the fuel pump for $20 off ebay. I bought the rest new from summit (ignition, coil ect..) I probably have $400-$500 in my carb swap start to finish.

[turbo2256b]

Intake will cost a bit more for a used Victor Jr but used good stuff is easy to find.

[mrltd]

Mrltd with all due respect I know what my heads ard capable of. Dialed them in years ago done a lot of them. Done them carbed, injected and blown.

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Well, I did not see anywhere where he stated he was using your heads. Sorry 'bout that.

[turbo2256b]

no problem

[Mercracer]

Intake will cost a bit more for a used Victor Jr but used good stuff is easy to find.

Why would he run a Victor Jr? It will probably not clear the hood and he will loose torque without gaining horsepower in the realistic operating RPM range of the car.

[turbo2256b]

because it will flow almost enough air to match the ported heads with out porting the intake. If you were to try to do it with stock heads and a hot cam you would be correct. Also you would be correct with some big port heads and a hot cam. High air speed changes everything.

[Mercracer]

because it will flow almost enough air to match the ported heads with out porting the intake. If you were to try to do it with stock heads and a hot cam you would be correct. Also you would be correct with some big port heads and a hot cam. High air speed changes everything.

Assuming that you are correct in that the heads will outflow the intake....it still doesn't matter. As you stated yourself, if the intake runners flow less air at the same pressure, the mixture velocity will increase thru the intake runners which is desirable. Since the motor is not capable of flowing more CFM than a Stealth intake will flow within the RPM range that the motor will operate in, a Victor Jr intake is not justified in this application. The height alone may prohibit a clean installation without hood modification.
The normal operating range of this car will be idle to 4000RPM's since this will be more street than strip. Either of the excellent modern high rise dual plane intakes will supply the motor with all of the air which it NEEDS and still offer decent performance at the track when desired. Putting around town or down the highway at 2000-2500RPM's is not the strong point of a high rise single plane intake. It appears that you are only thinking about track performance and not daily driving.

[turbo2256b]

All of the dual planes are designed for stock heads with stock air flow and a hoter than stock cam. So is the torker II and so is the victor jr for that matter. A hoter cam only gives small amounts of improved air flow at a cost of low end performance. This is because the hot cam has more overlap. This causes the intake and the exhaust to be open longer togeather to over come this the engine has to spin faster to make more power it looses low end, lowers economy, and raises emissions.

So here is what happens during the cycle air is pulled in the cylinder as the piston goes down the air speed is slow either because of the port shape or large port size. The air keeps increasing speed untill the piston starts back up then it is actually pushing against the incoming charge slowing it down and during the overlap period actually push some unburnt fuel out the exhaust. The more the overlap the more unburt mixture goes out the pipe. The cylinder fires piston goes down it starts back up the exaust opens to let the expanded burnt gases out once again ovelap occures most of the gasses go out the exhaust but some goes in the intake poluting the intake charge for the next intake of mixture.
Now here is what happens in a properly shaped port with higher air speed. One at any given lift point there is more air flow and less turblance. The piston goes down the air speed increases 100 feet per second faster than before as the piston starts back up the incoming inertia built up is not slowed down as easily as the low speed port more effectively filling the cylinder. Not as much overlap is needed so less of the intake charge goes out the exhaust this builds up higher cylinder pressures. The mixture is ignited the piston goes down starts coming back up the exhaust opens overlap occures less overlap is needed less exhaust goes in the intake a less poluted charge goes to the next intake cycle. This increases power, economy and decreases emissions.

[Mr. Land Yacht]

Question...
would 24lb injectors for 4.6 fit a 5.0?
the injectors I have on my car now are from a 4.6, but they're 19lbs.

[Lincolnmania]

yes...........4.6 mark8 and continentals are good donors........gotta be pre 97 i believe