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    No start condition II

    Having an issue with Fire And Ice. I drive her around town and make four or five stops, then she won't start for like ten minutes. When I turn the key on, I don't hear the fuel pump spin up. Is it the TFI module or temp sensor or what? I'm stumped. It usually only happens on a hot day.

    Thanx for the help.
    Project \"Fire and Ice\":

    1989 LTC

    My worst enemies are those who presume me to be harmless. They cannot imagine how much I resent and disdain them, or just how great a threat they would face if I could get at them. Everything in their behavior speaks of insult and presumptuousness, and for now it is all I can do to make constructive use of my anger toward them. At this time, I just make a list of them and keep a watch on. Some day, with the help of time, space, and circumstance, I will be able to humiliate them properly - not in a manner they would enjoy, but in a style calculated to make them wish that they had never been born.



    Anton Szandor LaVey
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    #2
    I thought the TFI controls only the ignition and timing (advance and stuff), and not the fuel pump. Do a test - unplug the TFI and turn the key to "ignition on" (don't start the engine), if you hear the fuel pump spinning then the TFI is probably not the cause.

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      #3
      The fuel pump does actually run off the PIP in the distributor but I don't know if that holds true for that second of pump operation when you first turn the key. See if it has spark when it doesn't want to start. No fire = bad TFI most of the time. When mine died, I was sitting nicely at a stop light, and the car just shut off.
      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

      Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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        #4
        It's definetely firing. Just not getting fuel. And, she never dies on me, just won't start after a bunch of running on a hot day. I have to wait like ten minutes before trying.
        Project \"Fire and Ice\":

        1989 LTC

        My worst enemies are those who presume me to be harmless. They cannot imagine how much I resent and disdain them, or just how great a threat they would face if I could get at them. Everything in their behavior speaks of insult and presumptuousness, and for now it is all I can do to make constructive use of my anger toward them. At this time, I just make a list of them and keep a watch on. Some day, with the help of time, space, and circumstance, I will be able to humiliate them properly - not in a manner they would enjoy, but in a style calculated to make them wish that they had never been born.



        Anton Szandor LaVey

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          #5
          Pull the engine codes using a code scanner and post them for us to see.


          '90 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
          Baseline 5.0L numbers totally stock, 123 rwhp, 239 rwtq
          5.4L swap coming soon.

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            #6
            Hm, maybe replace the fuel pump relay? Could be you're getting due for a new fuel pump. Pump relay is in the trunk mounted to the hinge on the driver's side.
            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

            Originally posted by phayzer5
            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

            Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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              #7
              fuel pump overheating, my first s10 did it, run fine for awhile then wouldnt start, wait like 10-15 mins and itd work fine,
              jay--1983 towncar, 302v8 cfi, dual straight pipes w/resonators ,edelbrock motor goodies, custom interior, full custom stereo system, full rebuilt trunk audio setup, custom paint...more to come......

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                #8
                Is the fuel pump overheating a sign of things to come? Sounds like I'm going to have to replace it.

                I'll get codes and check the fuel pump relay this wed or thurs.
                Project \"Fire and Ice\":

                1989 LTC

                My worst enemies are those who presume me to be harmless. They cannot imagine how much I resent and disdain them, or just how great a threat they would face if I could get at them. Everything in their behavior speaks of insult and presumptuousness, and for now it is all I can do to make constructive use of my anger toward them. At this time, I just make a list of them and keep a watch on. Some day, with the help of time, space, and circumstance, I will be able to humiliate them properly - not in a manner they would enjoy, but in a style calculated to make them wish that they had never been born.



                Anton Szandor LaVey

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                  #9
                  If its overheating, its prolly about to die. Does it do it more when the fuel level is low vs when the tank is full? If its full, the pump will be submerged which should help take care of the heat, but the fuel pump is almost totally covered in a big rubber condom so it'll hold a fair amount of heat even when in fuel.
                  86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                  5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                  91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                  1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                  Originally posted by phayzer5
                  I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                  Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                    #10
                    No. Empty, full, there is no difference.
                    Project \"Fire and Ice\":

                    1989 LTC

                    My worst enemies are those who presume me to be harmless. They cannot imagine how much I resent and disdain them, or just how great a threat they would face if I could get at them. Everything in their behavior speaks of insult and presumptuousness, and for now it is all I can do to make constructive use of my anger toward them. At this time, I just make a list of them and keep a watch on. Some day, with the help of time, space, and circumstance, I will be able to humiliate them properly - not in a manner they would enjoy, but in a style calculated to make them wish that they had never been born.



                    Anton Szandor LaVey

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 83tc
                      fuel pump overheating, my first s10 did it, run fine for awhile then wouldnt start, wait like 10-15 mins and itd work fine,
                      Weird. My Sonomas fuel pump just up and died. No warning signs of any kind.
                      Save a seal, club a liberal.

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                        #12
                        try the relay under the hood first.

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                          #13
                          Any luck yet?


                          '90 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
                          Baseline 5.0L numbers totally stock, 123 rwhp, 239 rwtq
                          5.4L swap coming soon.

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                            #14
                            No. And I can't get the codes right now due to having to work 72hrs a week again. I'll probably be able to mess with it in a couple of weeks.
                            Project \"Fire and Ice\":

                            1989 LTC

                            My worst enemies are those who presume me to be harmless. They cannot imagine how much I resent and disdain them, or just how great a threat they would face if I could get at them. Everything in their behavior speaks of insult and presumptuousness, and for now it is all I can do to make constructive use of my anger toward them. At this time, I just make a list of them and keep a watch on. Some day, with the help of time, space, and circumstance, I will be able to humiliate them properly - not in a manner they would enjoy, but in a style calculated to make them wish that they had never been born.



                            Anton Szandor LaVey

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                              #15
                              sorry, but we cant wait that long.





                              haha just kidding
                              im only now starting up a car i bought in february

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