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    I know a few of you guys have upgraded to 1.7 ratio roller rockers. I found a set of roller-tip rockers on ebay for about $70 shipped. Is the difference between full roller and roller tip worth the extra expense?

    -Matt
    1968 Fairlane 500 - 1998 Camaro Z/28

    #2
    Full roller, the only benifit from those would be that they are 1:7's.
    Chris - A 20th Century Man \m/ ^.^ \m/

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      #3
      I like that style, but those particular ones are for a Chevy:

      Do they have them for SBFs too?

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        #4
        Those are Chevy? Chevy engines don't use a pedastal type rocker. They're fully adjustable, and you have to set each rocker to the proper preload otherwise it doesn't work. There is a whole sequence to it, and I don't see how you could possibly do it with that style rocker unless it was converted to pedastal. Chrysler uses a rocker shaft arrangement but its one shaft per head.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

        Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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          #5
          Well, at least that's what the eBay description says... You think these will work for my engine?

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            #6
            those are for stud mount heads, we have pedestal mount

            1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
            2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
            1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
            1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
            2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
            1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

            please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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              #7
              Originally posted by lincolnmania
              those are for stud mount heads, we have pedestal mount
              And the difference is...? Sorry for the dumb question, but I don't exactly feel like taking my valvetrain apart just to see what's under there

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                #8
                I've got an awesome set of full roller adjustable 1.6 pedestal rockers that I'll sell.
                Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                  #9
                  If I get a set I'm going for 1.7's, want to maximize the gain on the stock HO cam.
                  -Matt
                  1968 Fairlane 500 - 1998 Camaro Z/28

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                    #10
                    I like my 1.7s...
                    1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
                    Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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                      #11
                      the differene bewteen a full roller and a roller tiped is that A roller tip helps to minimize a bit of friction on the tip, but still rides on the big saddle. a full roller rocker rides on needle bearings.
                      http://secondhandracing.com/Home.aspx
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                      R.I.P. Jason P Harrill 6-12-06

                      http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?t=5634

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                        #12
                        Duce, are you replying to me, or to Nitroracer? Cause I was interested in the difference between the pedestal-mount and the stud-mount full rollers. Also why does Thain imply the Vortec rockers from the pic above are for pedestal mount, while Scott says just the opposite? I'm confused...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ivan D
                          Duce, are you replying to me, or to Nitroracer? Cause I was interested in the difference between the pedestal-mount and the stud-mount full rollers. Also why does Thain imply the Vortec rockers from the pic above are for pedestal mount, while Scott says just the opposite? I'm confused...

                          Pedastal mount rockers you just tighten down. They have a piece under them that prevents the rocker from being run down too far. Its kind of a pre-set deal. Stud mount rockers just have a nut pushing them down. You can run them all the way down and keep the valves open if you want. They're fully adjustable.

                          This is an FMS 1.7 roller rocker. Note the small piece over on the right. The flat side sits against the head, and the cupped part sits on the rocker arm's pivot shaft. The head has a tapped hole for the bolt to thread in to.


                          This is a Chevy stud-mount rocker. Note the lack of bolt and pedastal thing. This just sits on the stud and uses that locking nut to hold it down. The lock nut has an allen key inside that you tighten to jam against the stud to hold it in place.


                          This is a Chrysler rocker shaft setup, probably for solid lifters since it has the valve lash adjuster screws.





                          I still say I don't understand how those mini-shaft deals would adjust but maybe they would. Probably could do it with a different torque sequence than the standard seperate rocker type uses. Just do it one cyl at a time as each comes up on TDC.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                          Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                            #14
                            Nitro, for about 10x the price you can step up to full on all out race rockers and get a Jesel shaft mount set up.
                            http://secondhandracing.com/Home.aspx
                            http://secondhandradio.com/

                            R.I.P. Jason P Harrill 6-12-06

                            http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?t=5634

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                              #15
                              Oh, okay, I get it now. So I'm looking for a 1.7 pedestal-mount full-roller set... aluminum or steel rockers? Ebay has both, price is about the same.

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