Hey all I just got through running my Lincoln around the block. She idles fine and runs smooth on acceleration, but THERE IS NONE!!! When I put it in drive and let the car coast forward, it lurches slightly like its not getting enough gas. I gave almost 1/2 throttle and she didn't move like she should, just got really loud. Currently I am running open headers, no oxygen sensors, but everything else put back right. The throttle cable is correct I checked it while my dad floored it. I am running 14lb/hr injectors, stock cam, stock computer with mustang E7 heads/intake/tb/egr/headers. Any ideas guys??
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1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph. -
Maybe those 14lb injectors. DO you have the tv hooked up?1989 Grand Marquis LS
flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mph -
Make sure the distributor is installed correctly and the ignition timing is correct. check for proper fuel pressure.
also check the TV cable. make sure it moves in conjunction with the throttle.
You may not have full power, because there are no 02 sensors and the ECM is confused.2003 Town Car Signature - 3.27 RAR, Dual exhaust and J-mod - SOLD 9/2011
89 Crown Victoria LX HPP -- SOLD 9/2010
88 Grand Marquis LS - The Original -- Totaled 5/2006
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+1 for the timing.Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
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O2 wont affect. My 90 ran the same without em1989 Grand Marquis LS
flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mphComment
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I'm gonna put the H-pipe on and hook up the o2 sensors and see where it goes.1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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There was another guy on here that did the same E7 swap and had the same issue. I think he ended up with an AFPR and tweaked the pressure to get it happy. Search past threads, I want to say it was Matthew, and the car was the Loveboat. Also, the lack of backpressure and O2 sensors isn't helping. And yeah, +2 on the timing.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousersComment
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sounds to me like you have the timing retarded instead of advanced........common mistake btw
1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)
please be patient, rebuilding an empire!
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Just because it ran, doesn't mean it wont effect anything. EEC-IV has FMEM (failure mode effects management) as a back up when it loses input from a Sensor. basically this means it goes to a fixed value in the look up tables or it falls back on a previously known sensor value. However this only holds true if the ECM has been in operation for a while. I assume 89LTC had his battery disconnected and the ECM had lost power/memory. The ECM can not control the Fuel map or spark curve when the 02 sensors are inoperative and the ECM has no known, stored values to fall back on.Originally posted by Southern_Pride2003 Town Car Signature - 3.27 RAR, Dual exhaust and J-mod - SOLD 9/2011
89 Crown Victoria LX HPP -- SOLD 9/2010
88 Grand Marquis LS - The Original -- Totaled 5/2006
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or the spout is left in when it is setOriginally posted by lincolnmaniaBuilder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
Busy maintaining a fleet of FordsComment
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okokokokokok. I did not change the timing at all when I did my work, and it ran flawlessly before, but I will buy a light and check it anyways. Yes my battery was disconnected a few times so the ECU probably has nothing in it. I have the O2 sensors and the mustang H-pipe that I will put on tommorrow.1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.Comment
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Timing should be set a 10 degrees BTDC with the spout connector pulled.
2003 Town Car Signature - 3.27 RAR, Dual exhaust and J-mod - SOLD 9/2011
89 Crown Victoria LX HPP -- SOLD 9/2010
88 Grand Marquis LS - The Original -- Totaled 5/2006
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I had this same problem, I would bet you with 90% certainty, that you set your timing without pulling the spout (spark output) jumper. YOu can search "spout" for threads with pictures of what it is. If you did pull the spout and set to 10 degrees or mores of ADVANCE, then just ignore this post. Like I said I had the same problem, and Just 5 degrees of advance can make a big difference. I think when I pulled the spout jumper, I found my timing to be off by 12 degrees if I remember right, so it is absolutely essential top do that.
I did the same halfway conversion as you, everything but cam, injectors, and ecm. The car makes good power, I doubt the full on conversion would be much more power.
Also, I severely doubt you have a problem with your injectors, it is possible, but I doubt it. My AFPR (adjustable fuel pressure regulator) was a cool gadget, but turned out to be unnecessary.
Good luck, I think you will be happy with the results when you get her dialed in. I got more satisfaction from the improvement with more gear (3.27) than the engine mods though.1991 GM GS sedan "Love Boat" HO converted, Holley adjustable fpr, 3.27 Trac-lok - RIP
1991 Colony Park LS "Wally World Express" HO, 3.27 trac-lok - RIP
1988 grand marquis ls "grey ghoul" - RIP 1992 gm ls "superbeater"- sold 1993 F350 dually 7.3 IDI crew cab flatbed "killer" - RIP
1994.5 F350 Dually Crew Cab Flatbed, Powerstroke 7.3 "overkill" - Alive and kicking
1987 Lincoln Town Car "El Presidente" - Resting for winter, gonna be a beast!
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You guys might find that funny, but I don't know how to check and/or adjust my timing - would anyone be kind enough to explain that? I know it involves pulling the spout connector, using a timing light, looking at the marks on the harmonic balancer, and rotating the distributor, but what is the exact procedure? I'm asking cause some time ago my TFI module went bad and I had to rotate the distributor so I can get it out, and I'm not really sure that when puttig it back I got the correct timing.Comment
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Oh, and on the backpressure question - does running only pre-cats (I lost the real cats earlier this week) with nothing behind them give a stock 5.0 enough backpressure, or I have to fab me some restrictors? It feels that I've lost some low-end torque, cause the car doesn't pick up speed as fast as before... Of course all that sand ballast in the trunk might have something to do with it, but I still wanna make sure I get the backpressure thing right.Comment
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