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    88 Colony Park Loss of Power

    I was taking my car through a roundabout/traffic circle/wtfeveryoucallit this morning and halfway through the turn the car shuddered like it came out of gear and was then unresponsive to the throttle. No warning lights came on, engine was still running. I pulled over to the shoulder and as soon as I came to a stop the car died as if it were a manual trans stopping in gear. All the warning lights came on and I put the car in park. I turned the key and the car fired right back up, drove it work with no issues whatsoever. I work at a dealership/repair shop that will take a look at it but obviously want to feel out the forum gurus here for any insight or what I should be looking for. Was pretty unsettling and never have had that happen before. Thanks!

    #2
    check the TFI connector and make sure it's on all the way. I had to zip tie mine for a while cause it would back off and do exactly this.

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    Originally posted by gadget73
    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

    Originally posted by dmccaig
    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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      #3
      Originally posted by sly View Post
      check the TFI connector and make sure it's on all the way. I had to zip tie mine for a while cause it would back off and do exactly this.
      you mean for the ignition module?

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        #4
        Yes, it sticks out from the front bottom of the dizzy.


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          #5
          just checked that, its super tight. no play or looseness whatsoever.

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            #6
            Could, however, be bad.


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              #7
              Originally posted by miamibob View Post
              Could, however, be bad.
              it has a brand new motorcraft TFI. new plugs, wires too. the exhaust pipe after the cats was split, very bad leak and very loud. i replaced that and am wondering if perhaps the cats are plugging up and the re-added backpressure is causing problems once the cats heat up?

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                #8
                Originally posted by CaptainKRM View Post
                it has a brand new motorcraft TFI. new plugs, wires too. the exhaust pipe after the cats was split, very bad leak and very loud. i replaced that and am wondering if perhaps the cats are plugging up and the re-added backpressure is causing problems once the cats heat up?
                Possible. Not sure how you'd test that theory, however. Without, obviously removing it/them.


                "Hope and dignity are two things NO ONE can take away from you - you have to relinquish them on your own" Miamibob

                "NEVER trade your passion for glory"!! Sal "the Bard" (Dear Old Dad!)

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by miamibob View Post
                  Possible. Not sure how you'd test that theory, however. Without, obviously removing it/them.
                  that is truly the trick isn't it. maybe time for 'stang headers

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                    #10
                    could be the pickup inside the distributor... or some wiring shenanigans of some harness sliding around... or the batter not tied down good. If the positive terminal contacts the fender, it could do this.

                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                    Originally posted by dmccaig
                    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by sly View Post
                      could be the pickup inside the distributor... or some wiring shenanigans of some harness sliding around... or the batter not tied down good. If the positive terminal contacts the fender, it could do this.
                      Well, it left me stranded last night on the side of the road and thus the tow truck came to get me. I was driving home from work and about fifteen minutes into the drive it shuddered like it dropped into neutral and coasted to a stop, then all the lights came on and it died. Hitting the throttle while coasting did nothing. I started the car and was able to drive it another few minutes and it did it again. The intervals between each stall became shorter and shorter, to the point where I could not get the car going.

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                        #12
                        check for trouble codes... what you describe is consistent with a failing pick up coil in the bottom of distributor.
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                          #13
                          when my car did this, the capacitor in the ECM had puked itself and then when I tried to check codes, the ECM fried (took the ignition module with it). It might be worth your time to open the ECM and make sure that one through hole capacitor is ok first.

                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                          Originally posted by dmccaig
                          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                            #14
                            When you say, no throttle response, do you mean it doesn't Rev up? Or it revs up but doesn't go?
                            Andrew

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by andrew_mccaffrey View Post
                              When you say, no throttle response, do you mean it doesn't Rev up? Or it revs up but doesn't go?
                              engine acts like an air pump. its running, but hitting the gas does nothing. no rpm change or change in engine noise. when the car coasts to a stop, the engine kills and all the warning lights come on. car will start right back up.

                              we put a distributor in the car last night and it idled without a hitch for about 45 minutes to an hour. it then died out. it seems like it will idle for that length of time without trouble, if it is driven however you'll get 15 to 20 minutes before it dies out, then progressively less drive time between each shutdown. it seems to me that after whatever the trouble part is that warms up fully is when the problem starts to manifest itself and kill the car.

                              i'm starting to lose faith that i am going to find the problem. any help is greatly appreciated.

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