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    #31
    what about stock? not trying to do any mods.. not sure i even want to swap engines.. may just junk it.. gotta price things..

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      #32
      got engine ripped down. both heads have cracks in them around the valves on some cyls, and the gaskets are totally blown out..

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        #33
        no beuno

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
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        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

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        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #34
          previous owner must have got it so hot it was glowing or something

          finding that sort of damage i would just drop a used engine in it......in my neck of the woods a running engine at ez-pull is around 200 if they pull it.

          1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
          2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
          1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
          1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
          2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
          1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

          please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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            #35
            yeah, very bad things must have happened to that. 302's don't usually blow the head gaskets and they very seldom crack the heads in a low rpm wuss engine application like these cars got. They will with extreme heat, but thats about it. I'd be concerned about other damage from that sort of abuse. Cooked rings for example.
            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

            Originally posted by phayzer5
            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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              #36
              everyone is saying same things, a 5.0 cracking it's heads. how? lol

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                #37
                I would not run blue water in mine and try to find out. Here in NC, good 5.0s are hard to find. Lots of Mustang lovers here and tons of Explorer's met their doom in the C4C scheme.

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                  #38
                  I wonder if maybe the washer fluid isn't the root cause of all this. It doesn't freeze because its got a large alcohol content, but alcohol boils at a lower temperature than water or water/antifreeze does. If the fluid was boiling in the heads, it very likely created hot spots in the engine that could explain this. If there was some reason the cooling system wouldn't hold pressure, it would boil around 150 degrees and normal running temperature is 195 with a stock thermostat. I'm not motivated enough to do the research to find the boiling point at 16 psi but something tells me its probably not enough.
                  Last edited by gadget73; 12-05-2013, 06:11 PM.
                  86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                  5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                  91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                  1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                  Originally posted by phayzer5
                  I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                    #39
                    This might help.....

                    avenger-valkyrie.org
                    http://www.avenger-valkyrie.org/techinfo/antifreeze.htm
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                    "Hope and dignity are two things NO ONE can take away from you - you have to relinquish them on your own" Miamibob

                    "NEVER trade your passion for glory"!! Sal "the Bard" (Dear Old Dad!)

                    "Cars are for driving - PERIOD! I DON'T TEXT, TWEET OR TWERK!!!!"

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                      #40
                      Thats coolant or coolant/water mix. The OP said the previous owner of the car had put blue washer fluid in it instead of antifreeze. I don't know exactly what the boiling point of cheap washer fluid is, or exactly what it does with pressure but its probably still lower than coolant/water mix. Just tossing out theories here. Doesn't matter all that much honestly, the heads are screwed and it doesn't matter a whole lot how at this point.
                      Last edited by gadget73; 12-05-2013, 09:01 PM.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #41
                        Yeah I know but just wanted to give SOME idea of what might happen. Don't think we are going to find boiling points for window washer fluid in coolant systems unless the idiot that did it originally has done some scientific studies on the matter!!


                        "Hope and dignity are two things NO ONE can take away from you - you have to relinquish them on your own" Miamibob

                        "NEVER trade your passion for glory"!! Sal "the Bard" (Dear Old Dad!)

                        "Cars are for driving - PERIOD! I DON'T TEXT, TWEET OR TWERK!!!!"

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                          #42
                          At the very minimum, it's impressively fucked up.
                          2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
                          2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
                          2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
                          1987 Colony Park - 03+ frame swap, blown Gen II Coyote, 6R80, ridetechs, stainless works, absolute money pit. WIP

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by pantera77 View Post
                            At the very minimum, it's impressively fucked up.
                            LOL not very impressive from where i sit.. :P

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                              #44
                              Well, was gonna have my engine rebuilt. but for what heads would cost me, I found a motor out of an 87 Town Car with 22000 miles in a u pull it yard. (jusdging by no oil leaks and no rust i believe the milage) lol think i'll go that route.. :P

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by ltd88 View Post
                                Well, was gonna have my engine rebuilt. but for what heads would cost me, I found a motor out of an 87 Town Car with 22000 miles in a u pull it yard. (jusdging by no oil leaks and no rust i believe the milage) lol think i'll go that route.. :P
                                It's probably 122k, but either way running engine is a running engine.
                                2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
                                2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
                                2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
                                1987 Colony Park - 03+ frame swap, blown Gen II Coyote, 6R80, ridetechs, stainless works, absolute money pit. WIP

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