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    OBDI 101: when will the check engine light come on?

    My new engine build is not running as smoothly as I'd hoped.
    Now, I haven't actually touched the engine proper in the past week and a half-- I decided to replace fuel injectors, and mess with adding dash gauges, and finally do that heater core, so I've just been avoiding serious engine diagnostics.

    I still haven't done elementary things like:
    -vacuum pressure?
    -rpms @ idle?
    -oil pressure, with proper mechanical gauge? (and not just assume that because the idiot light is on at idle, I've got 5.99psi @ idle).
    -fuel pressure?
    -check for spark? Could I have damaged a spark plug wire? (christmas tree still the best way, or, resistance test across each wire?)

    But anyway. I'm going to do those good things next weekend.
    I was listening to audio tracks of missfires versus smooth engines, I think my build might be missing (I know most of you would recognize a missfire in an instant: I just haven't been doing this long at all).

    Would a check engine light necessarily trigger with a continuous missfire?
    If it most definitely would on a missfire, and given that I have no check engine light, then I can conclude that that's not a problem for me.

    But if the check engine light only triggers on very major stumbles, then I might still have a missfire, and codes waiting patiently in the computer for me to pull and read?

    #2
    If you have a test light you can use it to ground out a cylinder and diagnose which is miss fire. Hook the test light up to a ground then stick the sharp end into one spark plug boot at a time this will ground out that cylinder and you will hear a change in the way the engine idles. If you get to one and it doesn't change anything when you ground it that is likely a dead cylinder. The really only helps check for fouled plugs though a miss could be caused by other things and/or be to intermittent to pick up.


    '90 LX 5.0 mustang
    Big plans

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      #3




      ....the following failures or codes are the only ones that would trigger the CEL/MIL to turn on for the time the failure condition is present, once the failure is not present, the CEL will turn off:

      CIRCUIT CODES
      ACT 54, 64
      ECT 51, 61
      BP/MAP 22
      MAF 26, 56, 66
      TPS 23, 53, 63
      EVP 31, 32, 34, 35
      HEGO(1) 41, 91, 42, 92
      (1) Based on a "lean-rich" switching counter timer function.

      Intermittent codes will only trigger the CEL during the time the failure condition is present. Any other circuit failures may be present, affecting driveability and/or performance, but not cause the CEL to turn on....and can only be identified/retrieved via the self-test routines. Another case are the failures that are not logged in memory, but are present during engine operation.....any failure code that doesn't have a "M" = memory, continuous notation, but any of the others, falls under that category....as you can check at http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,849.0.html .
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      - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

      - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

      - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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        #4
        That pretty much covers it. Good job Josh.

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          #5
          I wonder how many times over the years I should have had a CEL. Prior to 1989, most panthers did not have one.
          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

          Originally posted by phayzer5
          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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            #6
            Originally posted by 86VickyLX View Post
            That pretty much covers it. Good job Josh.
            I use that and fordfuelinjection.com for everything EEC-IV related. Reading about strategies and long-term learning and blah blah blah gets old but it has really helped me.
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            - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

            - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

            - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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