My 89 CP has recently started stalling if I lock the steering into a hard left turn. Usually happens after the car is hot after slow traffic driving in summer and when I 'm doing lock-to-lock turns of the steering as during parking. Once it stalls it doesn't start immediately and only makes a loud click coming from the starter motor. After a couple of minutes it starts normally.The battery is in good condition with a green indicator window.
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make sure the battery is not shifting around. the positive battery terminal may be shorting against the fender.
edit: re-read that... so it's slow speed stuffs. may also be a battery with a weak cell or battery terminals gone to crap.
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rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
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Originally posted by gopiqpp View PostMy 89 CP has recently started stalling if I lock the steering into a hard left turn. Usually happens after the car is hot after slow traffic driving in summer and when I 'm doing lock-to-lock turns of the steering as during parking. Once it stalls it doesn't start immediately and only makes a loud click coming from the starter motor. After a couple of minutes it starts normally.The battery is in good condition with a green indicator window.
I've had this problem with my car. Normally would happen with the ac on when hot. The fix was cleaning the IAC. I also checked to make sure that the idle was within spec with IAC unplugged (basically I verified timing at 10 degrees before top dead center with SPOUT connector disconnected, and then I hooked up a tach to make sure idle was between 650 and 850 by adjusting the screw on the throttle body). Once that was done, I adjusted the TPS voltage to .9V at idle.
The hard starting sounds like a tired old starter motor.Last edited by 86VickyLX; 05-16-2011, 04:40 PM.
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Originally posted by 86VickyLX View PostJust a heads up (if we're talking about the indicator in the battery), that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good battery.
I've had this problem with my car. Normally would happen with the ac on when hot. The fix was cleaning the IAC. I also checked to make sure that the idle was within spec with IAC unplugged (basically I verified timing at 10 degrees before top dead center with SPOUT connector disconnected, and then I hooked up a tach to make sure idle was between 650 and 850 by adjusting the screw on the throttle body). Once that was done, I adjusted the TPS voltage to .9V at idle.
When you adjust the TPS, do you do it key-on when you're verifying the voltage? Or does the car need to be running?sigpic
- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock
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Originally posted by 1990LTD View PostWhen you adjust the TPS, do you do it key-on when you're verifying the voltage? Or does the car need to be running?
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thank you sir!sigpic
- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock
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The random click with no cranking is possibly just a bad connection at the starter or one of the battery cables. Or the starter is getting weak. When they get hot, they get weak. Since you live in a hot climate, you may be better off converting the car to a later style gear reduction starter for improved torque. They are also smaller, so there is a little more room between the starter and exhaust pipe.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
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Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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Originally posted by 86VickyLX View PostJust need the key in run, the voltage regulator in the computer for reference voltage will keep the reading stable. Probe the green wire with your positive voltmeter lead, and ground with your negative lead (I recommend a digital meter if possible, since they're easier to read).
how do you properly probe a wire, anyway? dinner first?
EDIT: i understand the general concept, but i'd like to preserve the insulation on the wires. could i jab unbent paperclips into them and touch the multimeter contacts to them?Last edited by 1990LTD; 05-16-2011, 05:54 PM.sigpic
- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock
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if you have the fat needle type probes, you can generally probe harnesses through the rubber cap where the wires go in. just wedge the probe into the hole with the wire you want to probe. unbent paperclips however can make this immensely easier.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.
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Yeah my voltmeter has the pointy leads but I think they'd still be too big for the wires, especially when paperclips would work just as well. thanks.
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- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock
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Originally posted by 86VickyLX View PostJust a heads up (if we're talking about the indicator in the battery), that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good battery.
I've had this problem with my car. Normally would happen with the ac on when hot. The fix was cleaning the IAC. I also checked to make sure that the idle was within spec with IAC unplugged (basically I verified timing at 10 degrees before top dead center with SPOUT connector disconnected, and then I hooked up a tach to make sure idle was between 650 and 850 by adjusting the screw on the throttle body). Once that was done, I adjusted the TPS voltage to .9V at idle.
The hard starting sounds like a tired old starter motor.sigpic1988 Colony Park
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Originally posted by 1990LTD View PostYeah my voltmeter has the pointy leads but I think they'd still be too big for the wires, especially when paperclips would work just as well. thanks.
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Use the pointy end of safety pins. Much better on skinny wires. Use some alligator clip test leads from radio shack and you'll leave the insulation on the wires almost completely unscathed.Originally posted by gadget73There is nothing more permanent than a temporary fix.
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