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    Oil Pan/ Dipstick Question

    Quick questions, guys...

    Where does the disptick mount on a 302 car? Oil pan, or in the block? On my car, the dipstick doesn't really seat that well. I assed around with it a little bit, but because of the headers, its hard to mount it in nicely. I was thinking of replacing it with a flexible Lokar piece... but the car is in storage, and I don't remember where it mounted when I looked underneath. Lokar has a couple options, and I don't want to get the wrong one.

    So...

    #1). Where does the dipstick mount (pan or block), and how is it fastened? Is it threaded, or is it push in with o-rings, etc?

    #2). Does a panther 302 use the same oil pan as a fox body Mustang?
    **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
    **2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
    **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
    **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck Duties
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    #2
    Dipstick mounts in the block. It is just a push in fit and no o-rings to my recollection. Just metal on metal. The upper part of the tube bolts to the exhaust manifold.

    Panther and fox use different oil pans.

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      #3
      Pushes into the block with a little RTV. I believe you have a NOS panther one on your car.
      ~David~

      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

      Originally posted by ootdega
      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

      Originally posted by gadget73
      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.



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        #4
        yep, NOS, and yes it just pushes in. needs something to secure it to a header bolt most likely.

        Same pan as a Fox Mustang.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

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        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          #5
          Originally posted by Neal 97 250 View Post
          Panther and fox use different oil pans.
          No they don't, they're the same!

          Dipstick is mounted on the side of the block, it's just pressed in.

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            #6
            Yeah, good to get the right aftermarket dipstick. The first one I bought, I spent lots of time bending it this way and that and wondering why it was so much trouble to install in the stock position. A few years later I learned about front-sump engines and their dipstick location.

            The fancy Lokar pieces do look really nice, at least in the catalog pictures.
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              #7
              I've always liked the stock ones, but I hate how they secure to the exhaust, or rather don't secure to the exhaust when you replace the stock parts. Mine has been hanging free for years now. It doesn't leak, but it looks stupid, and its a pain to check the oil because the dipstick tube just swings around randomly.
              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

              Originally posted by phayzer5
              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                #8
                Do what I did...but with some fancy metal..not just some cheap square tubing.

                ~David~

                My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                Originally posted by ootdega
                My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                Originally posted by gadget73
                my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.



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                  #9
                  that's a nos stick and tube, last ones that were in the system

                  1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                  2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                  1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                  1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
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                  1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                  please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                    Mine has been hanging free for years now. It doesn't leak, but it looks stupid, and its a pain to check the oil because the dipstick tube just swings around randomly.
                    haha mine too.
                    Give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will promptly forget that he once did not know, and proceed to call anyone who asks, a n00b and flame them on the boards for being stupid.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                      Do what I did...but with some fancy metal..not just some cheap square tubing.

                      You could use the correct bolt/stud thats designed for that. It doesn't clear with aftermarket headers. The primaries are too fat.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #12
                        I dont quite follow what your problem is. I will have to snoop around for some pictures to try and understand.
                        ~David~

                        My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                        My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                        Originally posted by ootdega
                        My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                        Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                        But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.



                        ​

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lincolnmania View Post
                          that's a nos stick and tube, last ones that were in the system
                          Was it a panther stick? Because it looks different than David's. Mine swoops forward, and the stick almost pulls out horizontally.

                          I will be sure to save this one. It would probably work fine, but I was messing with the ehader gaskets and plugs, and moved the dipstick, and then when I went to put it back, I couldn't get it in satisfactorily.

                          Also, Scottmang... whats the deal with your cell number? The one I have says its temporarily out of service. I was trying to call you to consult you on this matter!
                          **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
                          **2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
                          **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
                          **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck Duties

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                            #14
                            The panther one comes straight up under the wiper motor. Mustang ones aim forward. I really don't remember whats on that car, other than it was a new one. I thought it was a panther part.
                            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                            Originally posted by phayzer5
                            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                              You could use the correct bolt/stud thats designed for that. It doesn't clear with aftermarket headers. The primaries are too fat.
                              Funny, I found a stock Panther stick (both 302 and 351, come to think of it) worked OK with "headers" after tweaking the whatever out of the bolt-down tab. Still blasted annoying to attach, though. One nice thing about the Mustang stick (at least, the chrome FRPP ones) is that the tab goes to a more accessible bolt hole.
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