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    #31
    You can run them with straight oil and let it knock and it will go a very long time. Ford smallblocks do not need oil pressure, they need oil flow. As long as its making at least enough to keep the red engine light of doom off when driving, it'll keep going. When the light is on all the time, its done.
    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Originally posted by phayzer5
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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      #32
      it is usually on when i it is in gear
      "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

      -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
      -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
      -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
      -2011 Subaru Outback

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        #33
        may be time for thicker oil... or a good degunking.

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #34
          degunking i take it is the Auto rx stuff?
          "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

          -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
          -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
          -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
          -2011 Subaru Outback

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            #35
            that would be my best bet... but there are other ways to do so. Others may have opinions on this subject. Though, I would definitely avoid any "engine flush" options as that's almost guaranteed to clog something up.

            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
            rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

            Originally posted by gadget73
            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

            Originally posted by dmccaig
            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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              #36
              Yeah, that was why I was concerned about the auto RX stuff, thanks, this is for my dad 's 86 MGM
              "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

              -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
              -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
              -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
              -2011 Subaru Outback

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                #37
                Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                You can run them with straight oil and let it knock and it will go a very long time. Ford smallblocks do not need oil pressure, they need oil flow. As long as its making at least enough to keep the red engine light of doom off when driving, it'll keep going. When the light is on all the time, its done.
                Not really true. The PO ran my 91 GM with the light on and making a hell of a racket for over a year, I bought the car and kept driving it for a few months, running it hard with the light on all the time. Even blasting down the highway. It'll keep going until it doesn't. I've seen them drive miles with cracked blocks, pistons blown into pieces...My other car went thousands of miles with an autometer ultralight mechanical gauge reading 0 at idle. The trans gave out before the motor.
                Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                  #38
                  remarkable....
                  "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                  -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                  -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                  -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                  -2011 Subaru Outback

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by mrltd View Post
                    Not really true. The PO ran my 91 GM with the light on and making a hell of a racket for over a year, I bought the car and kept driving it for a few months, running it hard with the light on all the time. Even blasting down the highway. It'll keep going until it doesn't. I've seen them drive miles with cracked blocks, pistons blown into pieces...My other car went thousands of miles with an autometer ultralight mechanical gauge reading 0 at idle. The trans gave out before the motor.
                    didn't mean to imply that it blows up when it gets to that point, but thats the point where you can honestly say the engine is very well worn and it might be a good idea to consider doing something about it. The 302 is a tough motor, but it does eventually reach a point where it says FU. Losing the oil pump is generally that point.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                      #40
                      so, on an off topic, what makes these motors knock? Is it year specific?
                      "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                      -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                      -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                      -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                      -2011 Subaru Outback

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                        #41
                        the firing order is a little rougher on the rod bearings than the HO firing order IIRC. it's basically the rod bearings getting worn. Even with a spun bearing, they'll continue to run good (knocking all the way) for some time.

                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                        Originally posted by dmccaig
                        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                          didn't mean to imply that it blows up when it gets to that point, but thats the point where you can honestly say the engine is very well worn and it might be a good idea to consider doing something about it. The 302 is a tough motor, but it does eventually reach a point where it says FU. Losing the oil pump is generally that point.
                          Yup. Though with these damn motors, just toss in a 150 buck reman crank and bearings and keep going...
                          Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                          Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                            #43
                            so this happens to all motors? It's inevitiable?
                            "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                            -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                            -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                            -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                            -2011 Subaru Outback

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by porschpow View Post
                              so this happens to all motors? It's inevitiable?
                              It's the nature of the Lopo firing order. It puts more stress on the bearings vs the HO firing order. Strange though as it's believed that the Lopo runs smoother than an HO...

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                                #45
                                so on a stock Lincoln can i arrang ethe plugs in an HO firing order without any conseguences and repurcussions?
                                "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                                -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                                -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                                -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                                -2011 Subaru Outback

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